Obviously you've been inspired Jack to share this image and to introduce some other cultural references into the current thread, I was amused by your statement that the five other nymphs are in the background, but have failed to draw any relevence otherwise. Please feel free to expound further, I may even be capable of learning more than my original disposition on the subject, that is why I am here.
I have just myself finished studying Shiva meditation - even told I was a Yogi, though so was everyone else in the class - it is based in a Hindu tradition and I should remind myself more often to practice it.
I am sorry if I've offended your religious sensitivities, I look forward to reading more thoughts in regards to your satyr.
Book of Mercy #6-7
Some of that exquisite painting has been cut off on the right. There are only three women visible. It's great to see you here, again 
. It doesn't appear that prayer is his destination, though I can't offer any other possibilities, either. It seems he would be enjoying the moment, yet his body's posture seems one of reluctance, a pulling backward; yet reaching forward. Clearly a satyr... do satyrs fear water or are they unable to swim or would he just be unsteady on his hooves, with one hoof already in it? They're pulling him in.
~ Lizzy
. It doesn't appear that prayer is his destination, though I can't offer any other possibilities, either. It seems he would be enjoying the moment, yet his body's posture seems one of reluctance, a pulling backward; yet reaching forward. Clearly a satyr... do satyrs fear water or are they unable to swim or would he just be unsteady on his hooves, with one hoof already in it? They're pulling him in.~ Lizzy
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You asked for it DBCohen - I hope you won't regret it and please take my tongue-in-cheek-post with flakes of humour.
I noticed that in those times it was the body of men who have to go through chirurgies of all sorts to transform an original into another copy of the forms in fashion, women were left free to be natural. Other times other way of living.
Hum... but those times are running again for men now (over for them to go into Adam's outfit, or others outfis on their natural bodies of the last decades) they have to have their bodies offer in sacrifice on the table of consommation and pay pay pay pay and suffer suffer suffer to transform it into a smooth mix of flesh and silicone, a map of valley and mounts, often a pretext to draw sceneries of all colours.
(I may be more serious another time.)
I noticed that in those times it was the body of men who have to go through chirurgies of all sorts to transform an original into another copy of the forms in fashion, women were left free to be natural. Other times other way of living.
Hum... but those times are running again for men now (over for them to go into Adam's outfit, or others outfis on their natural bodies of the last decades) they have to have their bodies offer in sacrifice on the table of consommation and pay pay pay pay and suffer suffer suffer to transform it into a smooth mix of flesh and silicone, a map of valley and mounts, often a pretext to draw sceneries of all colours.
(I may be more serious another time.)
Hi Lizzylizzytysh wrote:Some of that exquisite painting has been cut off on the right. There are only three women visible. It's great to see you here, again
~ Lizzy
The painting hasn't been cut off and the two other women are accounted for. One of them is the oldest woman in the world who currently lives in Montreal and the other one is you who can't be in the picture because you are here. The guy going into the water, whose vulgar erection you can't see is me. He really is trying to step into a prayer for Mercy but greatly needs the assistance of the Sisters of Mercy to do it.
Jack
Oh and none of them seem to be concerned about his vulgar erection, thankfully.lazariuk wrote:Hi Lizzylizzytysh wrote:Some of that exquisite painting has been cut off on the right. There are only three women visible. It's great to see you here, again
~ Lizzy
The painting hasn't been cut off and the two other women are accounted for. One of them is the oldest woman in the world who currently lives in Montreal and the other one is you who can't be in the picture because you are here. The guy going into the water, whose vulgar erection you can't see is me. He really is trying to step into a prayer for Mercy but greatly needs the assistance of the Sisters of Mercy to do it.
Jack
Actually, I had meant to mention that the guy resembled you... though, now I guess it's just as well that I didn't, since I can't be responsible for giving an account on what I can't see and don't know.
We may be accounted for; however, we can't be in the picture because we no longer resemble those other, fine maidens. The law of aesthetics would be violated and we'd be arrested on the spot.
Oh, the Sisters of Mercy, they are not departed or gone...
they're hiding in the bushes...
til the aesthete police have moved on...
~ Lizzy
. . . the two other women are accounted for. One of them is the oldest woman in the world who currently lives in Montreal and the other one is you who can't be in the picture because you are here.
We may be accounted for; however, we can't be in the picture because we no longer resemble those other, fine maidens. The law of aesthetics would be violated and we'd be arrested on the spot.
Oh, the Sisters of Mercy, they are not departed or gone...
they're hiding in the bushes...
til the aesthete police have moved on...
~ Lizzy
It's your beauty on a different plane that does the worklizzytysh wrote:
We may be accounted for; however, we can't be in the picture because we no longer resemble those other, fine maidens. The law of aesthetics would be violated and we'd be arrested on the spot.
Oh, the Sisters of Mercy, they are not departed or gone...
they're hiding in the bushes...
til the aesthete police have moved on...
~ Lizzy
"Transparent, weightless, luminous
Uncovering the two of us
On that fundamental ground
Where love’s unwilled, unleashed, Unbound
And half the perfect world is found"
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I was about to vote for you to open another thread on paganism in the piece but obviously you don't know much about that as you say that the erection is vulgar - and this is definitely not paganism this notion of vulgarity, it is a corrupted notion of sexuality due to a misuse of centuries of judeo-christian notions. Too bad.
Did I read that someone is afraid of the police? Curious how people who act wrong always have the obsession of the police and punishment. Poor lost souls they are. (wink). As lost that can be will never be enough for me. (wiiiiiiiiiink).
Speaking of the law, I'll continue to read whatever jewish interpretations from people who are generous enough to share real knowledge about that with the LC's fan lyrics that I am. I hope there will be more to come.
Did I read that someone is afraid of the police? Curious how people who act wrong always have the obsession of the police and punishment. Poor lost souls they are. (wink). As lost that can be will never be enough for me. (wiiiiiiiiiink).
Speaking of the law, I'll continue to read whatever jewish interpretations from people who are generous enough to share real knowledge about that with the LC's fan lyrics that I am. I hope there will be more to come.
Hi Jack ~
Don't make me fall in like with you ...and, though softly delivered, that's an order 
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By the way, their eyes are ~ for whatever reason ~ averted from the lower parallels... yet, the looks on their faces don't look the least appalled.
~ Lizzy
It's your beauty on a different plane that does the work
Don't make me fall in like with you
...and, though softly delivered, that's an order . By the way, their eyes are ~ for whatever reason ~ averted from the lower parallels... yet, the looks on their faces don't look the least appalled.
~ Lizzy
To each his own, but I feel it's unfair of you to speak of Leonard in this way. Ah well, birds of a feather . . . couldn't ask for better companyDid I read that someone is afraid of the police? Curious how people who act wrong always have the obsession of the police and punishment. Poor lost souls they are. (wink). As lost that can be will never be enough for me. (wiiiiiiiiiink).
. Leonard, don't go away, even though she wants you to...There is a law
There is an arm
There is a hand
... here's mine.
~ LizzyThe club, the wheel, the mind, O love, aren't you tired yet?
I'm easy, maybe it was a mistake to use the word vulgar. Give me a better word and I will use that from now on. What word comes to your mind when you think of an erection? I'm not proud. I'll go your way too.Tchocolatl wrote:I was about to vote for you to open another thread on paganism in the piece but obviously you don't know much about that as you say that the erection is vulgar - and this is definitely not paganism this notion of vulgarity, it is a corrupted notion of sexuality due to a misuse of centuries of judeo-christian notions. Too bad.
Jack
Tchoco,
Regarding your first posting on the top of this page: unfortunately, I can’t see the image you added. Can you send it in another format, or as an attachment? I’d love to respond.
And as for your second posting later on: I certainly hope to continue the interpretation of Book of Mercy as we have done so far. I stopped at psalm I.6 and will not add others for the moment, until some more people who have been away can rejoin us and catch up. I mostly miss Simon’s contributions with the Zen angle, but he promised he’ll be back in a few days. Tom and Joe are also missed. It’s that frantic season, I guess. So psalm I.7 will be introduced already in the coming year, it seems. Happy new year to you all, once again.
D. B. Cohen
Regarding your first posting on the top of this page: unfortunately, I can’t see the image you added. Can you send it in another format, or as an attachment? I’d love to respond.
And as for your second posting later on: I certainly hope to continue the interpretation of Book of Mercy as we have done so far. I stopped at psalm I.6 and will not add others for the moment, until some more people who have been away can rejoin us and catch up. I mostly miss Simon’s contributions with the Zen angle, but he promised he’ll be back in a few days. Tom and Joe are also missed. It’s that frantic season, I guess. So psalm I.7 will be introduced already in the coming year, it seems. Happy new year to you all, once again.
D. B. Cohen
Mist and dust!I.6
Sit down, master, on this rude chair of praises, and rule my nervous heart with your great decrees of freedom. Out of time you have taken me to do my daily task. Out of mist and dust you have fashioned me to know the numberless worlds between the crown and the kingdom. In utter defeat I came to you and you received me with a sweetness I had not dared to remember. Tonight I come to you again, soiled by strategies and trapped in the loneliness of my tiny domain. Establish your law in this walled place. Let nine men come to lift me into their prayer so that I may whisper with them: Blessed be the name of the glory of the kingdom forever and forever.
Thanks JiminyCJiminyC wrote:Mist and dust!I.6
Sit down, master, on this rude chair of praises, and rule my nervous heart with your great decrees of freedom. Out of time you have taken me to do my daily task. Out of mist and dust you have fashioned me to know the numberless worlds between the crown and the kingdom. In utter defeat I came to you and you received me with a sweetness I had not dared to remember. Tonight I come to you again, soiled by strategies and trapped in the loneliness of my tiny domain. Establish your law in this walled place. Let nine men come to lift me into their prayer so that I may whisper with them: Blessed be the name of the glory of the kingdom forever and forever.
Lizzy
Suspending for a moment or two your belief that you may need to have had a better education to understand what this poem is about, I would really love if you would make some comments on it.
You might not know where to start and so with your kind permission I would like to ask you some questions.
You seem to be pretty familiar with Leonard's music and so when he writes "chair of praises" what is Leonard usually praising in his songs?
Does the answer you arrive at make sense in the rest of the sentence?
Do you have a problem with the word "rude"?
That should get us off to a good start. It seems like we are being given a bit of time to work with this one and so you don't need to feel rushed.
Jack