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Back to those three dots .

My usage of them has always been this:

The three dots that follow each other without spaces [... ] suggest a pause.

The three dots that follow each other with one space in between each [ . . . ] suggest an omission.

I may have gotten this from some manual at some point [and probably should've tried locating it in print before posting here ], or I may have decided this is the way it is, given the context in which I've seen them used. It seems like it's a "rule" I've seen, somewhere, though.

Any thoughts?


~ Lizzy

My curiosity has been piqued now. Being a dutiful Cornellian, I have a copy of the Strunk & White book on my desk.

Alas, this holds no mention
of the puncta in question.

So I went to wiki, where they basically said that you can use the ellipsis however you think you might want. It was invented by the Greeks, and "ellipsis" in Greek means "omission." It can be used to clarify or to muddle.

But it's also used to indicate a pause between ... well ... you know.
an unfinished ...
or at the end of an especially loverly sentence ...
(trailing off into silence.)

Can it also be used in combination
with other questionable punctuation...?
Yes...!

Wiki also says that the ellipsis can look like ... or . . . or even ***. I know wiki cannot claim to be authoritarian on any subject, but I thought it was interesting. Thanks ... for the intrigue...!

I hope this isn't the final word ...

Thanks ... for the intrigue...!

... ... !

You're welcome for the intrigue... and thanks for the research .

Leave it to the Greeks...

I am particularly fond of this one:

or at the end of an especially loverly sentence ...
(trailing off into silence.)

~ Lizzy

I hope this isn't the final word ...

Manna.

Would this remark of yours suggest the possibility of "spiraling ellipses";
the eternal return:
...re-incarnating ellipsis perhaps?

This is quite a fun word to play with Manna.
Well back to the reincarnated haiku's.
And BoHo, below are some beans for you to climb.

2)...humming saffron-dusk
baritone didgeridoo
omni pad-me aum...

Apparently the saffron (colour) is, to tropical Buddhists, the colour of the sunset and this colour promotes an "easy peaceful feeling" that is the natural mood/way into meditation and peace itself. Therefore some Buddhists wear the "Saffron Robe" in an endeavour to remain in this acquiescent state of mind.
The Buddhist chant of Om ni pad me Om (or similar) is the sound of the eternal vibration and they chant this sound to bring their own vibration into sync with it.
It is my observation that the oldest continuous culture in the world (50 to 80,000 years), the Australian Aborigines have practised a similar process for similar reasons. As well as chanting, they play the didgeridoo which also is a similar sound to the sound of the eternal vibration, OM.

So this little haiku is about the universal commonality of the "sound" of what we call God and the colour that may lead us "There". . The sound, before the "Word", the hum of being and Being.
And our ancient and ever-present determination to connect, to vibrate in harmony with that Presence.

Matj

"All sound is the rustling of robes" P.R Eason (Australian Mystic Poet).

mat wrote:It is my observation that the oldest continuous culture in the world (50 to 80,000 years),

Your observation?
...
How old are you?


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Latin (named) entity: "hellip" (horizontal ellipsis)
Unicode U+2026,
(hexadecimal: 2026; decimal: 8230)

In HTML, to input an unicode character
you can use the hexadeciaml digits, the decimal digits,
or the name of the character if it has one.

Put an '&', a '#', and an 'x', in front of the 4 hex digits, and an ';' after them.

Put an '&', and a '#', in front of the decimal digits (however many) and an ';' after them.

Put a '&' in front of the name, and an ';' after it.

Thus, respectively:
…
…
…

should show up on your screen (but maybe won't
- depends somewhat on your browser fonts)
as the the single-character unicode horizontal-ellipsis.

Only the middle one - the decimal representation,
- shows up right on mine. So I guess that decimal
is the only way to do it in BBCode.



If this:
…

does show up right, then you can select it
with the mouse to see that it is indeed
a single-character ellipses.

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The following:
hˈɔrəzˌɑntəl əlˌɪpsəs

spells "horizontal ellipsis" in unicode IPA,
simply cut and pasted from elsewhere.

mat wrote:
It is my observation that the oldest continuous culture in the world (50 to 80,000 years),


Your observation?
...
How old are you?

~greg.


Good point !

I'll just call it "poetic licence", though you and I know otherwise.

And as for your ellipses (hˈɔrəzˌɑntəl əlˌɪpsəs) parallel with the horizon, I'll consult more informed minds than mine and hopefully spiral down the slippery-dip to understanding.
...As an after-thought ~greg, wouldn't a horizontal ellipsis (3 dots) remain a dotted sequence...?

Somehow I get the feeling your telling me I suffer from headupmyarseeosus

Matj

Sorry, I don't know much at all about writing in unicode or whatever. I do know that you can type the ellipsis quite simply by pressing the period thrice. I also know that when I do this in Word it automatically converts this to the single character - I think that's what you're talking about.

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I guess I ought to take another stab at one of these haiku, since we've been filling up this thread with dot dot dot. But all I can get is an inkling that never blackens the page with any confidence. Sorry.