In Repose

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Karren B
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Re: In Repose

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Hi all,

I think we all wear a mask at some time or another, even Leonard… Does anyone know the real Leonard? I don’t think so; probably not even the man himself. We’ve all pretended to be ok at times when we’re clearly not, but you put on a brave face and a smile just so you don’t make others feel bad. A mask doesn’t have to be a bad thing, it may be a form protecting yourself or even protecting other people, who knows, that’s why they’re called masks, you never know what’s behind them.

And as for this Poetry section or ‘the back room of the forum’; I always liked that description, it makes it sound mysterious, like a speak-easy in the times of prohibition or a dimly lit Soho bar where people chat and laugh in lowered voices, and you know you shouldn’t be there but you’re lured in by the whispers, the laughter, the music, and the wisdom or jocularity of others words. It’s a place where everybody can have a voice no matter how big or small, it doesn’t matter who you are or where you come from, or what you have or haven’t got. You can pour your heart out onto the page or just sit quietly and take in what other people are thinking or feeling, and maybe gain comfort from realising you are not alone or as strange as you think you are! You may not know who’s who; even if you think you do you are probably wrong, but Hey Ho, do we ever know who anyone really is (Ah, there’s that mask thing again)??

The one thing you have to remember about this ‘backroom of the forum’ is never to take it to seriously (a lesson I was taught when I first happened by here), and enjoy it for what it is! :D

Cate wrote
I'm not sure why less people post, it could be as you said that it's (we're) just not welcoming and they're afraid to, or that they don't like what they see here, or that people are choosing to share other places.
I don’t think it has anything to do with being unwelcoming (challenging maybe, but never unwelcoming), after all you have anonymity if you want it so it doesn’t matter what people say, they don’t know you so you can’t take things personally. I think people’s lives and circumstances change, people move on or they just feel like they don’t have anything to say at that particular time. Just because you don’t speak it doesn’t mean you’re not in the room!

I do miss the days of Alsiony’s thought provoking poems, cate’s erotic and sensuous imagery of her poetry (always loved the moon ones) and violets deep, sometimes disturbing thoughts and feelings. When constructive criticism was both encouraged and helpful. I miss little kwills with her quiff and her mischievous sense of humour, Geoffrey’s ‘Sad Old Man’ music clips (you’re not sad Geoffrey) :D , and the harmless multi personalities of other forum members (you know who you are! Well I hope you do cos we don’t), and all the other poets, protagonists, writers, musicians, artist, thinkers, dreamers and anyone else who’s just passing through!

This ‘backroom of the forum’, like all the other places on the forum, is what we choose to make it.

Karren B
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Re: In Repose

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So nicely said Karren, thank you for popping down here for a visit and a gentle word.
I think people’s lives and circumstances change, people move on or they just feel like they don’t have anything to say at that particular time.
I think you're right. Each moment really is it's own moment and this is an area of the forum that takes on a life of it's own, perhaps it will become a place of more serious discussion, serious things have certainly been discussed here, perhaps it will become a quiet little place to post quiet little somethings

This members' poetry section could be so much more
then stick around - add some threads, talk with us about things that are important to you, talk to us about the things you are doing to make things better and maybe ask us how it is that we are trying to improve things (or don't) I have and grew up with white middle class privilege - yep, that's not the sum of who I am and I doubt that's the sum of who you are.
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Boss wrote:Dear Cate,

What you wrote about masks is bullshit. If you go to a Cohen concert, who do you want to see? Donald Duck? Bob Dylan? No. You want to see genuine Leonard Cohen, the real McCoy. And be transfixed by the man and his magic and not any mask. This members' poetry section could be so much more. Instead of being ransacked and taken over by a cluster of hopeless ingrained 'characters', we could really be vibrant. We could discuss and find meaning and grow and make a difference. Now it just looks like some ramshackle used car yard with one king pin and his two offsiders ready to back him under any circumstance. It's like the readers are too scared to participate. Or maybe I have it all wrong. Maybe the readers enjoy their clowns making shitty humour, these morons and their pitiful wit. What's the bet they hail from affluence and they knew only spoiled childhoods. That they were shielded from, or had to deny too much, suffering. That they always rely on their intellect to solve problems, not their hearts and souls. Indeed, what's the bet most Cohenites are from privilege - tertiary educated, Toorak home, the best money can buy. Taxi drivers in Lahore or people who work the markets in Malawi or disability support pensioners in Melbourne would never be privy to such intricate poetry and perfect song, would they? It's all bullshit - this forum, these Cohen groupies who purport to be for the oppressed, but in reality are just a few rich Westerners playing cutesy with word, with clever syntax because they are so terminally bored. Their culture bores them sick. They do nothing to change the world. Nothing. Only scream their guts out for admiration and attention and feed their readers spiced up bourgeois safe crap. You are hypocrites, and you are snobs.

And yes, I know, I am too.

Fuck you.

How sad, I am sorry you are hurting so much.

When Sobriety pops in to say hello, make sure your apology to Cate is graceful and sincere
yeah, well, errrrm, hum, yeah, ok, I dunno, articulation is not my fing, who cares, SHUT IT YOU MUPPET, blah blah blah
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Unmasked

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Cate and I have emailed. I apologised that my note was directed at her. It wasn't. It was meant for this dying poetry section, this dying forum and it was meant for our dying world. I can't save this poetry section, and I can't save this forum, but fuck it if I'm going to let this world go down. I'm going to need bucket loads of help. You in?
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Re: In Repose

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Goldsmith, you don't get it. You don't understand what a new world is. It, mate, excludes money. I wouldn't buy your stuff in a fit. Pitiful pedlars like you kill it, you kill everything. You are the problem along with your collaborators of trade, of commerce, of 'every single government'. I was going to suggest to our readers Stage 1. In it I was going to say give every single cent, every penny you can to charity. Then you put your materialistic filth all over the place. I don't want your books, I've got seven of my father's I've hardly read. You're a conman Goldspink. Some pommy conman. You know, you don't know Boss, mate. He sees the stench that is money a million miles away. And he will, tell your capitalist and communist friends, kill it all. Good day.
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Boss wrote:Cate and I have emailed. I apologised that my note was directed at her. It wasn't. It was meant for this dying poetry section, this dying forum and it was meant for our dying world. I can't save this poetry section, and I can't save this forum, but fuck it if I'm going to let this world go down. I'm going to need bucket loads of help. You in?
Will you be able to save the Naked Ironing competitions because in the end this is all I have. It's rather more important than poetry. Indeed, in a recent random poll of 1 person she said "Naked Ironing is more important than Poetry". I know polls came out bad in your recent General Election the other day, (you are a Brit I believe?) but this was an 100% vote!!

Sod the World, sod this Pottery Forum, hooray for Naked Ironing!

When I started this Forum 27 years ago, (strange as I am only 26 years old) it was just me and my "later ego" Geoffrey, then we begat Cat, late Cate, later Cater and Lo she could No write poetry. As time passed, Cate pottered around til she could write pottery very goodly. Then as more time past, we all begat a Mother Hen called LIzzytissue (as she cries a lot for other people and finds different tissues in everything), more recently we baguetted Johnny Goldsmith who writes and sells books! And you call this forum dead? Are you mad??

Once upon a time we had a Man called A man da and she also wrote pottery but she is now far away and someone has stolen her pencil.

Cheer up Mr Boss, I still like the trousers and shirts you make. I can help you save the World but can it wait til next Wednesday as I'm going to the cinema on Tuesday?

Also let's be (james) Blunt about it. This forum, which I started 33 years ago, is in fact just a sexual pick up joint for Geoffrey who can't write pottery for toffee but can do sentences with different words in different orders which make us laugh and cry about it all again.

It's quite hot today and I am not feeling that well.

Goodbye

Sue
yeah, well, errrrm, hum, yeah, ok, I dunno, articulation is not my fing, who cares, SHUT IT YOU MUPPET, blah blah blah
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Re: In Repose

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Michael,

- I apologised sincerely to Cate (before I read your post ordering me to)
- I lambasted your bookseller
- And there is this; you never saw the future

This place is small, not big enough for two egomaniacs.
Being poorer, I will relent.

Goodbye
Adam
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Re: In Repose

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Boss wrote:Michael,

- I apologised sincerely to Cate (before I read your post ordering me to)
- I lambasted your bookseller
- And there is this; you never saw the future

This place is small, not big enough for two egomaniacs.
Being poorer, I will relent.

Goodbye
Adam
I have no idea if you are an egomaniac but two? Girls just wanna have fun

Sue

PS I don't have a bookseller. Are you confusing me with Johnny Goldsmith?
yeah, well, errrrm, hum, yeah, ok, I dunno, articulation is not my fing, who cares, SHUT IT YOU MUPPET, blah blah blah
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