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Oh really. The only thing I saw was a button that said "End" or something like that. I'll go look again.
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Yeah Kush, she should be exhibiting...I guess she is in a way and if we keep forwarding the link someones bound to cotton on?

Byron, I can't imagine what that must have been like. Over in Australia you can feel very remote and watching things like this on the telly, only had a surreal feeling. Of course, it doesn't make you safe...just distant.

I don't think we should be too worried about contacting her? She's already on the web and therefore open to the authorities. Besides I got the impression that she has permission to go to the site...the guards at the checkpoint, and she mentioned that she had a scientific pass or something??

Russian occupation and now crumbling communism have destroyed much of Eastern Europe. I don't know if it's conspiracy theory, but there are said to be a few towns which have disappeared off the map in the ex USSR, due to nuclear accidents. Makes you wonder where else?

Speaking of movies, there was another called Until the End of the World. A Wim Wenders 3 hours special (8hours uncut). Again, it featured Australia as a bit of a safehaven from nuclear disaster in the Northern Hemisphere. But after all, there's only one atmosphere around this planet..so you can't really run anywhere.
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I just went there again and the button says "Done" ~ however, I never saw that address that I'm seeing now. It appears to be written backwards to what ours would be. Wonder if our post offices could handle it :lol: .

I've never heard of that movie either, Zabka. Sounds good. It may be "conspiracy theory," or maybe just accepted knowledge in some circles, but there are supposed to be some long-existing, underground, living facilities somewhere in the netherland, emptier regions of Australia. Some arrangement made by that invisible, highest 1% [or whatever, minimal percentage] of the truly 'important' people to seek and find safety in the event of nuclear disaster.
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Hmmmm...maybe if they went there now, the world would be a better place!!! :lol:
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Good idea..... :lol: . S'pose we could orchestrate puttin' a scare into them? Maybe if we start the same rumour from 'opposite' sides of the world, by the time it reaches them, they'll think there's something to it and head for the netherlands. We could call it a security leak of the highest order....and then dance, and dance, and dance in their absence :D .
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Dear Byron/Linmag/Sandra/Zabka/Epurcelly/Andrew(Darby)/Kush ~

To those who have contributed here. I don't think I'm too far afield to say that, even though it may not be their motivating factor/germane purpose, people appreciate knowing that their efforts have been noticed and are appreciated. I'd like to acknowledge your own input on this thread when I send my packet to Elena. Would anyone object to my including a copy of the relevant posts on this thread [the Leonard Cohen Files coalition/alliance]? If anyone else would like to add their own comments for her, please do, and I'll include them, as well. Laurie's poem will be presented separately and in a special way.

Thanks for letting me know.

~ Lizzy
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Synchronicity struck again last night. I am reading Max Hastings' Book, "Going To The Wars." On the page I was reading he described how a friend of his was killed in a car while covering one of the wars between Israel and its neighbours. He goes on to describe how Don McCullin raced to the car and pulled his dead friend out while risking his own life. There's a message coming through the ether here for us all???
Send the package. With my love and my blessings. (and perhaps someone else's who is no longer with us ? )



Don McCullin
Don McCullin is one of the greatest photographers of conflict in our time. His career has covered much of the latter part of the twentieth century -- a relentlessly photographed century steeped in conflict. This book is conceived on a scale that does justice to his extraordinary life. The book begins and ends in the Somerset landscape that surrounds his home. McCullin views a mythical England in the shadow of Glastonbury Tor beneath black, almost biblical, skies. The book then follows the chronology of his life, starting in the back streets of Finsbury Park in the fifties and going on to unpublished work recording the construction of the Berlin Wall, a landmark in his lifetime. McCullin's photographs reveal a ravaged northern England, wars in Cyprus, Biafra, Vietnam, Cambodia and Beirut, riots in Derry, and famine and disease in Bangladesh. All are photographed with unswerving compassion. The sequence reaches a climax among the cannibals and tribespeople deep in the jungles of Irian Jaya, as if McCullin's gaze had come to rest far from the clutter and debris of his time, focused on humanity in an almost Stone Age condition. As resonant as some of Goya's most terrifying imagery, collectively McCullin's photographs constitute one of the great documents of human conflict and its attendant grief, expressed with a visual lyricism that allows us to glimpse the unbearable. The introduction is written by Harold Evans, former Editor of the Sunday Times and The Times, a leading authority on photojournalism, who worked closely with McCullin over much of his career with the Sunday Times Magazine. The introduction is accompanied by an essay by Susan Sontag, the distinguished novelist, essayist and author of On Photography (1977). From The CriticsLibrary JournalMcCullin is a gifted and relentless photographer with an unlimited empathy for human beings facing hardship. Page by page, he shows us workers, drafted soldiers, and Third World people mired in constant struggle. There is no joy in this book, just the recording of hard lives carried out in silent dignity. McCullin, who provided front-line images for the Sunday Times Magazine from 1966 to 1984, presents this impressive retrospective in chronological order, covering the last four decades of the 20th century. Working in black and white, he shows us wars in Cyprus, Vietnam, Beirut, and Congo. In northern England, he shows the battles between people and their environment, a sooty mess of slag and clouds. In Bangladesh, Biafra, and India, he gives us the visual truth of famine. His most shocking and memorable photos are of corpses people frozen in hideous screams and postures. Harold Evans wrote the respectful introduction, and McCullin's life is noted in a sequence of biographical notes. Susan Sontag, ever probing the intellectual basis of photography, offers an essay on this photographic artist's moving work. Recommended. David Bryant, New Canaan Lib., CT Copyright 2002 Cahners Business Information.
Don McCullin, Harold Evans(Introduction), Susan Sontag
Published by Cape, Jonathan Limited

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ISBN: 0224071181
Pub. Date: October 2003
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Lizzytysh....I appreciate your generosity but with all respect I'd rather not be in this package :). I only wanted to express my opinion of her photography here. I would contact her myself if I so wished. Thanks anyway.
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Thanks for that input, Byron. McCullin and Sontag ~ an amazing combination. The book sounds incredible. Perhaps not now, but later, I can put my hands on a copy of it, and send it to Elena, as well. It sounds like a book that would be of high interest to her, and that she could identify with and even learn from [on the premise that we all still have room for learning ~ not that any was evident in her own photographs].

Thanks for all the info on it.

~ Lizzy
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Thanks, Kush. I was aware of that dynamic, and that's why I asked. Some just wouldn't mind, even though they may not take that step of doing it themselves. Trying to sort out who is which. Thanks again for letting me know.
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You are welcome, L. I'm glad you understand....it is just a personal choice.
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No problem :D .
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