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lizzytysh wrote: Michael ~ Can you not leave anything alone?


~ Lizzy

your over-protective comments and Jack's writing (subject to needing a good laugh)..that's 2 anythings for a start.

Geoffrey wrote:
where is the inquisitive mind of a leonard cohen fan these days? it is this complacent attitude, this 'devil-may-care' attitude, this blasé 'nothing matters' attitude that seems to permeate any subject a person raises. try to show a little genuine interest in what a person says, let them see that you have read and thought about what they have written. give it a try, be engaged in another person's thoughts. you can do it if you put your mind to it, i am sure.

I'm liking this Kinder, Sweeter Geoffrey...

Hey – some have writing talent, some are deadly serious, some do it for fun – but everyone can improve if criticism is constructive. Posting to a forum implies a desire for interaction – no?

Michael ~

Of course, my inclination would be to wait until I've seen enough evidence of sarcasm before making a comment labeling something as such. Extraordinary that I would make one right out of the gate, without it. A rash move.

You're precious, too... of course; and who would've thought that grandmothers and those overprotective of the needy are the only ones ever glad to see someone not be offended... and who would've thought you need to "own" someone to experience such a feeling. Since others should presumably[?] hope for the reverse, the grandmothers and the overprotective ones really oughta share their terrain and let some of the rest of us feel glad over something that's good.


~ Lizzy

lizzytysh wrote:Michael ~

Of course, my inclination would be to wait until I've seen enough evidence of sarcasm before making a comment labeling something as such. Extraordinary that I would make one right out of the gate, without it. A rash move.

You're precious, too... of course; and who would've thought that grandmothers and those overprotective of the needy are the only ones ever glad to see someone not be offended... and who would've thought you need to "own" someone to experience such a feeling. Since others should presumably[?] hope for the reverse, the grandmothers and the overprotective ones really oughta share their terrain and let some of the rest of us feel glad over something that's good.


~ Lizzy

Seadove isn't needy, Seadove wasn't offended. why not live your life, not his (hers?).
here's "something that's good", treating people like adults. try it sometime.

Ooooooooooooooo... snarly. I'm guessing you hold yourself as the gold standard for how adults treat adults? Interesting, Michael.

I'll stick to my way, but thanks for your suggestion of an 'upgrade.' I've noted that this is your opinion.

Curious who it was who said Seadove was needy or offended.

lizzytysh wrote:
>I'm guessing you hold yourself as the gold standard for how adults treat adults?


yes he does tend to do that. i'm on your side, lizzy, as are a lot of people here, i should imagine. all right, let me ask them then. listen up everybody, who do you like best, generally speaking, out of elizabeth and michael?

Geoffrey wrote:lizzytysh wrote:
>I'm guessing you hold yourself as the gold standard for how adults treat adults?


yes he does tend to do that. i'm on your side, lizzy, as are a lot of people here, i should imagine. all right, let me ask them then. listen up everybody, who do you like best, generally speaking, out of elizabeth and michael?

out of Queen Elizabeth 11 and King Michael of Romania- they are closely related

out of Elizabeth Hurley and Michael Tyson- it's a close fight

out of Elizabeth Taylor and Michael Jackson- I prefer them both, they were close friends

out of the ever caring, not at all over precious Lizzy and me - I definitely prefer me

out of an antelope and a develope - I will open the envelope and declare Geoffrey the winner

lizzytysh wrote:Ooooooooooooooo... snarly. I'm guessing you hold yourself as the gold standard for how adults treat adults? Interesting, Michael.

it's certainly not interesting.

I know it may shock you but over here they let people vote for members of parliament even though these electors are nowhere near the gold standard for political knowledge. crazy themselves, huh! what hypocrisy!

once I even heard a non soccer player criticise a mistake by David Beckham! what a hypocrite!

And, of course, Geoffrey, you know it's not about a 'who-do-you-like-best, generally speaking' contest, at least not for me; for me, it's about expressing discontent about a pattern I'm seeing repeated at a grinding rate, and in doing that, not surprisingly coming under fire myself.

I hold to there being room here for my non-attacking communication style, at the same time that I maintain the right to express discontent on a style that typically [with a few, ongoing exceptions] lacks even a modicum of respect for the person whose posting is being used as a makeshift stage. So, call me grandmother; I've been called worse .


~ Lizzy

lizzytysh wrote: So, call me grandmother; I've been called worse .

Hi Lizzy
So funny, until I saw what you wrote there was something I have never considered.
The last strong picture I have of you in my mind is when you were riding a bike through downtown Montreal on a Saturday evening with your hair blowing wild in the wind and your dress waving freely. When I saw what you wrote above it occurred to me that grandparents are not what they use to be and can probably be playing a much more active role in the community than what we are accustomed to.

Here is a video for us old ones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3ybRH3I ... re=related

Michael wrote:
>out of an antelope and a develope - I will open the envelope . . .

i'm sorry i put an 'e' on the end of 'develop'. unlike you, i live in a non-english environment. therefore there is an increased likelihood that i will, from time to time, make a spelling error. because for virtually every word in your vocabulary, i have two words. i work with a double set of rules, including differencies in grammar, nuance, etc. this is a whole world of which you, being monolinguistic (except perhaps for an odd sentence or two useful for a tourist trying to impress) would be totally unacquainted. correcting a spelling mistake of mine is equal to an imbecile toilet attendant pointing out to a brain surgeon that there is a fly on his arm.

Jack wrote:
>Here is a video for us old ones . . .

I enjoyed that, Jack. Thank you. Do you like Kentucky Fried Chicken? Here is a video about someone who does:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBdetQeZ ... re=related

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Geoffrey wrote:
I enjoyed that, Jack. Thank you. Do you like Kentucky Fried Chicken?

I would if i could. Glad that you enjoyed the video of Billy Joe.

Geoffrey wrote: correcting a spelling mistake of mine is equal to an imbecile toilet attendant pointing out to a brain surgeon that there is a fly on his arm.

There are things to consider here Geoffrey. The toilet attendant is probably there because he is in need of your dimes, so why not be polite and just give him one. Don't just throw it either, at first you might think that he only needs your dimes but consider that there are other people in his life who may be counting on him for more than dimes and so he also needs some sense of dignity. You never can tell in this world, there may come a day when someone leaves behind something valuable where the attendant works and it might make a big difference to others what he does with it.

Geoffrey wrote

correcting a spelling mistake of mine is equal to an imbecile toilet attendant pointing out to a brain surgeon that there is a fly on his arm.

why would the brain surgeon care that the toilet attendant has a fly on his arm?

Brain surgeon- "what a lovely day, I removed 3 brains today"

Imbecile Toilet Attendant- "I have a fly on my arm"

Brain Surgeon- "sorry, I can't help you. I only operate on brains not arms"

Imbecile Toilet Attendant- "oh well, I am going home now to fuck my girlfriend's brains out"

Brain Surgeon- " and I am going home and my girlfriend will open my flies"

The Moral of the Story is that we are all the same underneath, (although sometimes a Brain Surgeon will earn more than a Imbecile Toilet Attendant).