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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 6:57 am
by Kush
The Great Helmet in the Sky...that's pretty good...i didnt think of that one at all. I'm sure Jerry would love it.
Ok now I'm off for a few days.

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 9:21 pm
by margaret
Elizabeth, You've twigged! Of course I know your feelings on such matters. The idea was displaying the SUPERIORITY of OUR defence systems as opposed to theirs.

Who is Jerry? Have I missed something? :roll:

Oops!, I just went back and noticed the reference to Jerry Seinfeld :oops:

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 9:34 pm
by lizzytysh
:lol: ~ Don't feel bad, Margaret, I did the same thing with regard to "Jerry," initially asking, Kush, "Who's Jerry, Kush?" and then realizing the error of my ways, before I clicked on Submit, so deleted it and my post altogether :lol: ! Thanks, Kush, for your appreciation on the appropriateness and humour of The Great Helmet in the Sky :wink: .

Oh yes, no kidding, Margaret! No comparison, the technological superiority of ours, eh? The David and Goliath syndrome.....they're in the desert, and we're in the stratosphere :roll: . [Now, I'll await the scientific correction on that :wink: .]

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 12:14 pm
by Ben Kelly
Dear George

Merlin and his pen
Right again
:twisted:
Pardon the pun

Its a goodie

Ben

...a season, a time for every purpose under heaven.

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 1:09 pm
by Makera
Funny how so few realize the 'David and Goliath' story was all about psychology and spirituality. Not about who was bigger and badder or who had the greater skill. It was about who was superior in Spiritual faith and attunement. Joshua, David, Ghandi, Joan of Arc, Martin Luther King, Abraham Lincoln.... 'different strokes for different folks'; according to time and necessity. :idea:

~Makera

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 5:17 pm
by lizzytysh
Amazing how some people are so quick to condemn, and miss what's right in front of them, in terms of spirituality.

On another note, it would appear that, for some, my David-and-Goliath reference required spelling out in greater detail. At the risk of others here not understanding my reference, I will explain for you. The wonderful thing about biblical and other stories, parables, etc., that have survived for centuries, is that they are multi-faceted and multi-layered :idea: ~ multi-dimensional applications may happen to reference the one, most glaring link :idea: ~ however, not at the expense or loss of the other dimensions and layers that come along in tandem. However, again, and in fact, these same stories and parables, etc. can legitimately be used by accessing and extracting from them only one facet of them to make a given point ~ legitimately. All aspects need not apply for still-rightful usage. Lucky for us, the flexible and organic nature of language. The beauty and truths it can bring to our exchanges :) .

In this case, "might-makes-right" [hugely larger/physical confrontation/highly-developed technology] is a non-spiritual approach to problem-solving, which by default, makes it a spiritual reference, when contrasted with the virtually-weaponless, innocent people dying in prayerful positions, in their temples and homes in the "deserts" [of Iraq, Afghanistan, and whatever place we choose to attack next] from the bombs coming from above, "while the leaders say their prayers out loud," from behind their defense shield.

I suspect that you, Kush [not expecting an answer on this ~ as it really is a rhetorical comment], understood what I meant. Perhaps the long-standing discussions of the past two years have assisted in that mode that Byron/Albert has referred to, where silence is shared, and only a few words speak volumes, as they refer back to lengthy and in-depth discussions during other times, and possibly even other places.

Of course, I could go on with further elaboration of my David-and-Goliath reference, but I really don't feel it's necessary :idea: . If I'd had my first cup of coffee, I probably wouldn't have responded at all :wink: ~ off now to get it :D ! A-a-a-a-a-a-a-h-h-h-h-h-h.................. :)

~ Elizabeth

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 7:31 pm
by Makera
"And the man whose faith in human goodness fails
Forgets to put his liver in the scales"

C.J. Dennis (early 20thc Australian poet)

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 8:04 pm
by lizzytysh
:lol: ~ and, off to get the second cup of coffee, to add to liver toxicity :wink: , I returned too late to change the word "condemn" to "malign." In lieu of Edit messages, a new post.

Ahhh, the great quotations pour forth, and to what avail ~ when a mirror would do just as well. Some gross motor activity to give those fingers a rest. As someone once said, "First, above all, Know thySelf." Sorry for that loss of faith. As for me, mine's alive and well.

Even more importantly, at the moment, a very wise one recently said, "I have found it's best just to ignore incivility."