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lazariuk wrote:then the anxiety and so i sing along with Leonard
No it wasn't any good
there's no reason
why you should
remember me

I hope your not anxious because you've been left alone with me.
I promise I'll be good.
If you still feel anxious I'll sing with you, I hear it's a sure fire cure.

No it wasn't any good
there's no reason
why you should
remember me

sorry if I hurt your ears

lazariuk wrote:fond memory

Jack makes me matha
I sit on my stool and watch
He explains each step

the forum thread is quiet
we are the only two left

There you go - I like yours better.

"matha" - Jack I'm not sure what your going to teach me philosophy or math. Either way I'll sit quietly and listen.

O.k. not so quietly - I tried your number trick and it works - your very clever. I'm going to practice it tonight (I had to use pen and paper) so that I can torment my also very clever office mate in the morning. I don't think I'll be as nice as you though, I think I'll keep the trick to myself for a while.

lazariuk wrote:I did thought learn that by finding a clever way to divide things into groups of seven that I could easily remember 49 items. Meaning I could with a group of people be told 49 words (nouns were the only ones I tried) as they were being written on a piece of paper and after they were written be able to name all 49 words without a mistake in the correct order as well as being able to name specific numbers like if someone asked what was the 37th word I would be correct in my answer.

My memory ability is not as strong as yours, but when I was a waitress I used to use a similar trick. In my mind each seat had a number assigned to it 1,2,3,4,5,6.. When a table would order I'd remember individuals seat # and one thing about then, i.e. red hair, as they ordered I'd just slide each item into my memory where it belonged. I think a group of 5 maybe 6 would have been my limit though without pen and paper.

Cate

Cate wrote: My memory ability is not as strong as yours

Yes it is. I just have a better technique. I'll tell you what it is.
There is a house I lived in as a child. I took the time to bring it back to mind. I remembered it well. I remembered the front yard and 6 rooms in the house and I remembered 7 places in each room. That is not hard to do and you only have to do it once. Just remember them well.
then when people give me 49 objects I just go from room to room putting those things into the 49 spots that I have prepared. They always look out of place and sometimes funny. An elephant sitting on the stairs, a garage on the stove, a tiger in my bed and if they are not out of place or funny looking I find a way to make it so. A little imagination usually does the trick. Then you would be surprised how easy it is to remember the objects and exactly where they are and knowing where they are means that you know their number. Try it. start with 3 rooms with 5 places and then get bigger.
I have heard stories of monks in a monastery getting into the tens of thousands of locations

I have heard stories of monks in a monastery getting into the tens of thousands of locations

You are scaring me Jack!

My favorite 'crack' to people when my memory fails me (as it too often does) is "How am I ever going to get enlightened?"

Nice to see you/hear you Cate!

daka

Hi daka

Nice to see you/hear you as well

Hi Jack

I'm glad I stayed on my stool.

lazariuk wrote:There is a house I lived in as a child. I took the time to bring it back to mind. I remembered it well. I remembered the front yard and 6 rooms in the house and I remembered 7 places in each room. That is not hard to do and you only have to do it once. Just remember them well.

So your using your long term memory to support your short term memory, very smart.
I'll give it a try.

Cate wrote:So your using your long term memory to support your short term memory, very smart.

You're the one who is smart. You're the one showing me that I can use poetry to help my long term memory to support my short term memory.
To an independant objective outside observer the only thing that might look smart about me is that I use you're and you use your when you should be using you're. I am 57 years old and am only getting the hang of it this year and so I am not going to boast too loudly.

What thou lovest well remains,
the rest is dross
What thou lov'st well shall not be reft from thee
What thou lov'st well is thy true heritage
Ezra Pound

57 years old

One of a number of coincidences, Jack

I am 57
I lived in Montreal for 10 years
We both like Cohen, meet in this forum
and have encountered Baghavan Das
and Ram Das
and Orange four-barrel LSD (at the very least you know what it is.... or maybe you just googled it!)
etc. etc. etc. (to be discovered)

I suspect you may have suffered much less brain damage than me, surviving our youthful follies

daka

daka wrote: and Orange four-barrel LSD (at the very least you know what it is.... or maybe you just googled it!)

Don't be too sure about that brain damage. What I recall is Orange four-barrel double domes LSD. I thought I was immune to LSD after a few failed attempts and so was the only one willing to give it a try when everyone else was frightened by the rumors. That was my hello.
Saw written on bathroom wall one time "LSD comsumes 57 times it's weight in excess reality" but now that I'm 57 I need all the reality I can get.

"LSD comsumes 57 times it's weight in excess reality"

I LOVE that ... the "excess reality" much less "weight in excess reality" is what spirals it into the spheres and makes it so LSD appropos.


~ Lizzy

There is a house I lived in as a child. I took the time to bring it back to mind. I remembered it well. I remembered the front yard and 6 rooms in the house and I remembered 7 places in each room. That is not hard to do and you only have to do it once. Just remember them well.

I just back-read and spotted this. Thanks for the great idea! I think I'll do that and write down the 6 rooms and 7 places for keeping. I'm getting nostalgic already, as images start coming to mind.


~ Lizzy

I LOVE that ... the "excess reality" much less "weight in excess reality" is what spirals it into the spheres and makes it so LSD appropos.

This thread is getting pretty "trippy"

daka

And I just back-read even further and discovered how Jack used that technique to remember 49 words and their correct placement. Dang! I'll try that, too... after I come up with my rooms and locations. Very, very interesting.

I used a similar technique, Cate, when I waitressed at a place where we did no writing until we got to the kitchen and then [if applicable] had to group the orders on the paper and then deliver them paper free. I loved the feeling that came with being able to do it with the various items, correctly matching the kind of steak, its doneness, and the correct type of veggies and potatoes, with the person. We dressed in our own clothes and I typically wore a long, plain black, evening type dress. It's rare that you can feel elegant when you're waitressing . Those were the days. Wouldn't attempt any of it now .


~ Lizzy

lizzytysh wrote: I LOVE that ... the "excess reality" much less "weight in excess reality" is what spirals it into the spheres and makes it so LSD appropos.
~ Lizzy

It comes from a commercial for Rolaids that "consumes 57 times it's weight in excess acid" It was acid's way of getting back at having it's name used in a commercial.

Yeah, I realized the take-off aspect, but loved the idea of excess reality and excess reality having weight. I didn't think of the acid-acid connection, though; so it's even better now.


~ Lizzy

daka wrote:

I have heard stories of monks in a monastery getting into the tens of thousands of locations

You are scaring me Jack!

Oh don't be scared. You are the one who showed me how funny monks can be with their well developed abilities of concentration. I've heard jokes before but when I consider the one where your monk hero likened himself to a patient with 404 diseases, I know that is one that is going to crack me up for a long long time. That kind of humor is way out of my league, way way out.

Jack ~

Can you point me to that 404 joke, please? I've been pretty much away from here since the caucuses/primaries began, so have been doing "Linda"s and keep missing things.

Thanks.


~ Lizzy


Love you, Linda . Makes it so much easier... avoid the explanations and say, "I'm just bopping through, doing a 'Linda'."