Leonard & Anjani Tonight at the Richard Goodall Gallery

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Twice as much in dollars for me, Osmachar :( ... however, it sounds like a great catalog and it's signed, so... :D . Money comes and money goes, doesn't it?


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True...
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[quote="osmachar"]You should have been there earlier and you'd understand :-)[/quote]

[quote="osmachar"]You should have been there earlier and you'd understand :-)[/quote]

Osmachar, I was there early and late and I think you totally over state the case. Yes there was a wave of enthusiastic response when Leonard appeared. In my defence, I stayed in line at the counter to get a catalogue (more of that anon) and posters.
Etiquette was hardly thrown out the window. Let's be clear (as were the windows). without the LC fans the work would not be selling in such quantities from the gallery. Many of those who moved forward to see and hear (thee was no PA system) Leonard did so because they love the man and his work and they also bought the work.

It wasn't as if anyone was knocked to the ground or anything.

I thought (in my limited knowledge of exhibition openings) that it was a breath of fresh air to see such enthusiasm for the artist and I don't think Leonard can have been anything other than pleased with the obvious warmth (not in the literal or "glowing" sense, let me add) of the welcome.

I think Wendy Jones comments were (surprisingly?) sexist. Those who moved forward to see and hear Leonard were male and female. It wasn't a "Joe Dolan moment" with underwear being thrown at the man.

On the matter of the rising price of the catalogue, which Lizzy reports above. I find that appalling. Supply and demand is one thing (listen to Guy Clarke's song of the same name for more on this) but extortion and exploitation is another. If a forum member were to stick a catalogue on Ebay at some overblown asking-price there'd be eyebrows (and voices) raised. But when the gallery does it that seems ok.

Now THAT, Osmachar, is what I would call a breach of etiquette.
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If, if, if, the Gallery has raised the price of the items, as reported by Elizabeth, I fear that the budget airline practice of, 'the later you buy, the dearer the seat,' has entered the world of selling catalogues. I hope that the Gallery is not a part of this merchandising strategy :( I have no doubt that someone has upped-the-antie and I sincerely wish that Mrs Goodall is not involved. She was a true lady on the day and I shall remain thankful, always.
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My father's sister was buried alive.
But someone suspected it and suggested we check it out.
So we upped my aunty and sure enough she was still living.
Unfortunately, she died (again)twenty minutes later.
This time we drove a t-bone steak through her heart, followed by a 1958 Morris Minor, just to be sure.
But I've never upped the aunty since and I hope you're right, M'Lord. :lol:
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The shock, disappointment, and consternation were clearly in my voice and silent pauses in my 5:30 AM [EST] phone call this morning regarding the upped price of the catalog. This, however, was a matter of my own personal finances and the :shock: effect of suddenly realizing I would have to deduct a different amount than I'd originally planned and budgeted. I was grateful that she was honouring the second, quoted price... which I had technically seen; however, already having done the math in my head and arrived at a figure, and having had a number of emails back and forth, the new figure had not registered, as it only involved the word "now" and the change of a single number... the 2 to a 3, and I honestly didn't notice it.

So, when the new total was arrived at, I had to backtrack to the original quote and then the revised one to square it. In her favour, and to her credit, however, the end total of the mailing costs was adjusted; this included, per my request from days earlier, the two posters being mailed together in one tube. She said that the final total with us was what it would have been, at the earlier price of $25 pounds, without the juggling of mailing costs.

I didn't feel extorted, as I still had the option of saying no to the mid-range cost of $35, of which I had been informed. I fortunately was not charged the current price, which other galleries might have done. On my three trips to England, I have found things to be quite a bit more expensive than here, so I didn't feel that Leonard or I were being exploited in this.

At the $35 pounds I paid, it was still $5 USD/CAD less [the exchange rate now being so close as to barely matter] than the signed catalog was in Toronto [$75 CAD], where I didn't hear anyone complaining about it... and that was the price of the signed catalogs from day one.

I really don't know what the compensation arrangement is between the Gallery and Leonard regarding the Gallery-produced catalogs and the [presumably?] 'Leonard-camp'-produced posters; however, my HOPE would be that Leonard would receive a portion of the proceeds, even after the sales from the Opening. This is where the fork in the road would occur with me between this price increase and the [far-more-from-what-I've-seen] inflated price that might occur on Ebay. The proceeds from a sale such as that would clearly go only to the individual seller, with none to Leonard. Even though I'm not happy to pay the extra amount, as I really can't afford it, another distinction for me on this is that Richard is a friend of Leonard's and because of that was highly instrumental in this art showing ever coming into existence in the first place. A good cause.


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Have read your last post a few times LIzzy and am totally confused to whether the prices you quote are $ or £stg.
If the price has been upped it's still extortionate.
But if it's a matter of rates as between $ and £ that's different.
Long live the euro! :lol:
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PS
Mind you - 5.30 a.m. EST is half past midnight GMT.
If someone rang me at that hour about a gallery matter I'd jack up the price too! :lol: :lol:
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FOR SALE:

One only, 'original' print used for the Goodall Gallery exhibition, held recently on Sunday 8th July 2007. This 'original' piece cannot be repeated anywhere, due to its 'original' provenance and singularly unique ownership, concerning the propinquity of the event to the artistic creation of this 'original' piece.

This 'creation in monochrome,' was to serve as the 'guiding light,' for this owner, as he embarked upon the search for artistic enlightenment at the aforementioned gallery. Offers of over 1 Million Rupees, will be considered.

For this incredibly low price, you too can own this bloody useless map and directions, which were downloaded from the internet, to guide me on my way to Thomas Street, Manchester. It was as much use as a chocolate fireguard!

For an additional fee I will personally sign the item. :roll:
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Lizzy,
I wonder if there has been some confusion along the way in the price of the catalogue itself or the total cost with 2 posters in addition. The final total may also be higher due to significant post and package costs for airmail delivery across the Atlantic. I know this as I sent a catalogue to a friend across the pond.
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Actually, 5:30 AM EST was 10:30 AM their time [or 11:30 AM, I tend to forget whether it's a 5- or 6-hour difference] and the Gallery was in the full light of day.

The confusion may be because I converted it to USD as I referenced it in my terms.

For all practical purposes, the original price of $15 pounds for the Opening was $30 USD. That was the original price that shocked me, even at the time, because it was so comparatively low to what the signed catalog was in Toronto, which was $75 CAD [the same now, and very close then, as $75 USD].
The raised price of $25 pounds after the Opening was $50 USD.
The mid-stream, raised price of $35 pounds [which I paid] was $70 USD.
The current price of $50 pounds is $100 USD.

I hope these figures clear up the confusion.


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You're right LIzzy, I was looking at he clock upside down.
Byron, I think that may be the problem with the map, too. It was printed upside down.
What I really want to know is, if Margaret and yourself are on here, who's making dinner?
I'm only ten minutes from the house.
I hope it's not chips and beans - again! :?
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Margaret ~

The only thing that was altered at the end was the total cost of mailing, which was adjusted in my favour from the norm. The basic, altered costs of the catalog and the posters did not and never did include mailing costs.

My only confusion with this whole affair was missing the rise from $25 pounds [up from the initial, Gallery Opening price] to $35 pounds on the catalog itself. I learned about the current price of $50 pounds on the phone this morning. Mailing costs were always going to be added after the total of the items themselves had been tallied.


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I still find it unfair that the price of the catalgue should be "upped" for customers coming to the exhibition after opening day.
Five minutes away Byron - Sat-Nav working ideally............
Cul-de-sac....that can't be right........
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lizzytysh wrote:On my three trips to England, I have found things to be quite a bit more expensive than here, so I didn't feel that Leonard or I were being exploited in this.

'Leonard-camp'

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Liz if you want to see how much more expensive petrol (gas) is here compared to you, be ready for a shock.

As for Leonard - camp ???? surely not :wink:
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