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Re: Novel Writing Month

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 11:44 pm
by lizzytysh
Hi Ydc ~

You can't [well, I guess you can, cuz you did] just drop something like this and move on... unless it's to MoveOn.org, where you can give your support to Obama; but politics aside, did something fall [was there anything above you to fall?]; did your wife bonk you over the head with a vase; or did you go out drinking and have a blackout... in which case, well, I may have an idea what happened.

Thanks for clarifying that. "Poisonwood Bible" rang a bell, but the author's name didn't. Even sadder knowing it was a baby.


~ Lizzy

Re: Novel Writing Month

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:16 am
by Young dick c.
Lizzy, you are really pretty much sold on Obama? At this point, I am as skeptical about any of the major party politicians as some are of organized religeon. (How about a thread titled: "bush, a rediculous concept?") Anyway, let's hope that your optimism turns out to be well founded.

Sorry, didn't mean to leave you hanging, but at this point I am confounded myself. There is a reason that certain meds are contraindicated by alcohol, & I 'spose it's that same reason that there are those out there who persist on taking them in that combination. Part of my memory appears to excised. At first I thought it was safety glass, but all the windows in my automobiles are intact, so if it was, at least i wasn't driving; I've had such a headache the pat two days I've not made any phone calls--I don't think I really want to know anyway.

as far as the lady from Arizona (Barbara Kingsolver) goes, Poisonwood... is the only thing I've read by her. After that, I picked up a used book of short stories to add to the Ydc library, but it sits among many on the 'to be read shelf.' Regardless, Poisonwood... was just a flat out good read, even if one doesn't take into account what an act of genius it was. Kingsolver writes about a missionary who took his wife & 4 daughters to the Congo in the 60s. She writes the entire book in the 1st person alternating povs of all the women (never the possessed missionary, always using the ladies as a tool to fill in the information about him). Now that may sound mundane, but think about talking as a writer through one distinctive voice, let alone alternating between 5 extremely different voices. The mother narrates in the voice of a mother who unfortunately due to her marriage happens to be in a setting with her daughters that she is not particularly fond of. Leah seems to be the most grounded of the daughters (Ruth May is a toddler, yet to fully develop her personality). The beautiful blonde Rachel's voice paints her about as shallow as an individual can be, yet when after the intentional fire that is set to facilitate the hunt (using pyrotechnics to scare out game) that Leah participates in, the next chapter narrated by Rachel starts with her declaration of becoming a vegetarian. Leah turned out to fall in love with Africa; Rachel started out utterly despising Africa, but wound up with an entrepeneur's affection of it (Poisonwood... is a saga that amounts to years). Adah is the most intriguing to read, & it was through her that Kingsolver's writing was awe inspiring to me (of course, all the voices together created a synergism); Adah evidently suffers from a personality disorder of some type, & her descriptions & thought processes are absolutely breath taking.

Anyway, enough is enough. I am going to bed, & hopefully I won't recieve any registered letters from the magistrate tomorrow afternoon.

Re: Novel Writing Month

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:49 am
by linda_lakeside
I also read The Poisonwood Bible and can attest to Kingsolver's ability to draw the reader into the story, while painting 'her' Africa' from the palettes of her daughters, and from a distance, her husband. Don't know what other thread you guys are referring to, I just happened along and saw this post. So, I posted my 'thumbs up' on both book and author. Poisonwood was a word that could not be absorbed by the natives as it was just being 'pronounced' in such a way as to confuse them. Unintentionally. We can all relate to that, I think. Don't know what preceded this, and it doesn't matter - it was a good read, and was well executed.

Ooops, now I see I'm in an 8 page thread - well good luck to you all. :D

Re: Novel Writing Month

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:55 am
by lizzytysh
Hi Ydc ~

Yes, I'm 100% sold on Obama. I seriously hope you'll vote for him. If you get a quick chance, pick up the audio-book [this is my first experience with one... what a great way to 'read'] of his, "The Audacity of Hope" ~ 5 cds total... you won't get all the way through the first one before realizing how substantive he is and how the things you hear him saying are not political rhetoric or platitudes, but who he is and has been for a long time for very good reasons. It cost $30, but to get it in my hands ASAP, it was worth the extra cost. Next I'll be getting the one he wrote about "Memories from My Father" or something to that effect.

Hillary just stays a step behind him, waiting to see what he says that engages people and then paraphrases it... her verbal form of plagiarization... and puts it back out there, second-hand. I've begun to wonder if she has an original thought.

The Indescribably Dynamic Duo for me would be Barack Obama and Ron Paul.


~ Lizzy


For anyone from the U.S. or other countries, if you want to get a real feeling for what's at stake here [if Obama gets eclipsed via super delegates or corruption], find this on Amazon or your local bookstore and listen. It would be a major loss to us, as well as our position in the world. It would be a major loss to us, as well as our position in the world.

Since there appear to be a large number of complaints from the public regarding media coverage of this contest, I'm hoping that, that also means they are 'getting it' ~ the terribly skewed coverage favouring the Clintons vs. Obama... we know continually where all three Cs are and what they're doing, including semi to complete coverage of it... whereas, WHERE are Michelle and Barack!?! Plus, the skewing of the polls and their meaning... with focus on, "So, what can Hillary do to win?" vs. "Look at this incredible thing that Barack Obama is doing!!"

Re: Novel Writing Month

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:35 pm
by lizzytysh
Speaking of Novels and Fiction:

THE MORE THINGS CHANGE, THE MORE THEY STAY THE SAME. Last night, Alan was telling me the basics of 'who' the woman was who took over as Clinton's campaign manager. He couldn't remember her name as we talked, but he told me about who she was, regarding Vincent Foster, White Water, and more White House/Clinton scandal... accurately. When I told him today what I had read about one of the Hispanic, superdelegates of California saying the switch was a betrayal to Hispanics and giving him many second thoughts about who his superdelegate vote would go to, he gave me Margaret "Maggie" Williams name [he finally remembered it] and suggested I Google it.

When I did that, I found [not at ALL surprizingly] Arianna Huffington already on the case [ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-h ... d=1&page=5 ]:
Who Is Maggie Williams?
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The announcement that Maggie Williams just became Hillary Clinton's new campaign manager sent me back to a column I wrote about her over ten years ago:

Fallen Angels In Clinton's Rogues' Gallery

November 17, 1997

One of the most distressing features of our current political system and the Clinton White House in particular, is the way they turn otherwise honest, caring, idealistic individuals into spinning, rationalizing, truth-twisting defendants desperately trying to stay out of jail. Last week, we saw the results of this transformation in Hillary Clinton's former Chief of Staff Maggie Williams and in Interior Secretary Bruce Babbitt, whose testimony to Congress is now under investigation by the Justice Department.

Maggie Williams' case is particularly poignant. Last week, she testified at the House Government Oversight Committee hearings about her relationship with serial donor Johnny Chung. After spending the afternoon mesmerized by her contortionist testimony, I watched an actress in Anna Deavere Smith's new play "House Arrest" portray Williams and express her hopes that she would really make a difference in the lives of children and those in need. And I have no doubt that is what Williams originally believed her tenure at the White House would be about. Instead, it turned out to be about lie detector tests, racking up over $300,000 in legal bills, and spinning -- the committee, the press and perhaps even herself.

You can see at once the toll this has taken on her. I remember meeting Williams at the start of the first Clinton term and being impressed by her presence, her passion and her sense of humor. And here she is now, having chosen to leave the White House to live in Paris, looking tired, heavy -- defeated.

Ever since her days as a student at a parochial school in Kansas City, loyalty has been a Williams trademark. The French nuns at her school divided the class into groups with their own distinct dress colors. "We all learned to develop this incredible loyalty to our color," Williams once explained. This loyalty was transferred to her bosses. The Washington Post described her working motto as "let them set the mission, let me get it done." But at some moment during Clinton's first term, the mission shifted from saving the country to saving the first couple.

For an idealist like Maggie Williams, maybe the first lady was the embodiment of the mission, the only means at hand through which the ends she believed in could be achieved. But one thing led to another. And allegations that she removed Vince Foster's files were followed by allegations that she sold access to Johnny Chung -- until this past week, she found herself trying to jerry-fit her fund-raising involvement into the nobility of her once-worthy hopes. Back in 1993, Williams said: "Everybody hates the big injustices. ... But I hate even the little injustices, even the way a sales clerk treats somebody who is shabbily dressed and happens to go into a nice store."

What made last week's testimony sad and laughable at the same time is her pretense that that same hatred of injustice toward the little guy explains her relentlessly solicitous behavior toward Chung. "As an African American," she told the committee, "I know what it means to be different in politics in America and be on the outside of things and struggle mightily for insider status and recognition, and so I perhaps had an especially high tolerance for Mr. Chung."

Williams wants us to believe that she helped Chung get what he asked for in his typed wish list because he was "not given overall the kind of respect" extended in the White House to white males. "We are going to treat him as well as we would treat any other irritable jerk who would show up," Williams explained in her deposition last May. Tired of seeing white, rich, irritable jerks being the only ones allowed to subvert the democratic process, Williams had a dream that, one day, all rich, irritable jerks would be equally allowed to subvert the democratic process.

So as part of her outreach to overlooked minorities, she gave Chung, among other things, signed photographs with the first lady, the privilege to eat on her tab at the White House Mess as often as he wanted, and access to the president's radio address for him and his "little guy" friends -- the head of China's petrochemical monopoly among them. Perhaps next time, Williams should launch a broader outreach to include minorities who have not given $366,000 to the Democratic National Committee. Or maybe she should just join a Big Sister program.

Chung ended up visiting the White House 51 times, many of these visits taking place after the National Security Council had described him as a "hustler" who should be treated with "suspicion." But to hear Maggie Williams tell it, Johnny Chung was a poor, innocent waif, a sort of diamond in the rough, an Eliza Doolittle grossly in need of expert counseling in the finer points of fund-raising etiquette from Mrs. Clinton's staff -- who, after all, are responsible for the social niceties at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. "A prime example of his ... misguided behavior," Williams testified, "was his persistent request to give money directly to Mrs. Clinton. On more than one occasion, I told Mr. Chung this was not possible, although his offer was much appreciated."

At the same time, Williams' aide, Evan Ryan, was telling Chung -- according to both Chung and Ryan -- that the DNC owed the White House $80,000 for a Christmas party and that any contribution would help pay off the debt. So it's no wonder that despite his charming cluelessness about fund-raising protocol, Chung was pretty clued in to how the White House worked: "The White House is like a subway -- you have to put in coins to open the gates."

Maggie Williams' story is a "Pilgrim's Progress" in reverse. She started out trying to do good and has ended up in the City of Destruction, trying to spin her way out of the rogues' gallery.
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For more interesting commentary, go here:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/topics/Vince+Foster

Re: Novel Writing Month

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:18 am
by lizzytysh
This is so beautiful. Even at this early hour of barely past 10:05 PM, Barack Obama is declared the Winner in all three states tonight:

Virginia ~ 92% Counted ~ 63 Obama/36 Clinton
Washington, D.C. ~ 49% Counted ~ 76 Obama/24 Clinton
Maryland ~ 2% Counted ~ 72 Obama/26 Clinton


Even though the Clinton Machine appears to have bought out the media in all its forms, the gyroscope becomes more unbalanced by the minute.



~ Lizzy

Re: Novel Writing Month

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:25 am
by lizzytysh
This is from Barack's site:
Thank you Brittany...
By Sam Graham-Felsen - Feb 12th, 2008 at 9:01 pm EST


Brittany, a student at Howard University, is one of the Washington D.C. volunteers who has helped propel this movement. This summer, Brittany was chosen to have dinner with Barack and three other grassroots supporters.

Here is Brittany's story...


http://my.barackobama.com/page/communit ... elsen/C7jF