Explosions in London

[linda_lakeside]

..due to practical limitations of time, distraction and communication I hesitate getting into lengthy discussions on the internet, thats all.
I'd me more than happy to meet Jurica in a bar on a Friday night and solve all the problems of the world.

Kush, your quote is perfect for many of us for many reasons. In fact, I wish I'd said that! Discussing the problems of the world in a quiet bar, on a rainy afternoon, is a time-honoured practice.

Linda.

[bee]

Tchoco- who is and what is

Capitaine Haddock

I like to know! I like it you liking me I like you too very much, but you can piss me off with your theories of masculine or feminine power and that sort of nonsense which you propose in full seriousness. But I do like your imagination though. Intellectual wars have been going on for eternity-we would not have the cosmonauts today without them. Don't be afraid of them, they are good for you.

[jurica]

a bar on a Friday night (where Johnny Walker wisdom's running high) sounds great to me. i often thought about why i tend to discuss grave matters myself. but i still think discussion is a good thing. you may not change anybody's oppinions, but at least you'll get to look upon your own from different perspective.

i think it was A. Huxley (and yes - i didn't write the whole name 'cause i can't) that said something like 'the only part of the Universe that you can most certanly improve is yourself'.

i always figured that the point of discussion is always testing your own oppinions against the others'. that may lead me sometimes to advocate devilis (or however the fraze goes), but i don't care. only when we understand 'our foe' can we perhaps find a shared interest, right?

[linda_lakeside]

Hi Jurica,

Aldous Huxley wrote one of my favourite books called "Brave New World", which I'm sure you're familiar with.

Yes, in the 'testing' of your opinions, you may run into the 'devil's advocate' but, so what? A good discussion, with anyone, in quiet surroundings, may lead you to learn more about yourself, as well as your 'foe'. In the learning/understanding of your opposite's opinions, you can only benefit, I think. Discussion can open doors, or close them forever. I think an open door is far more appealing than a closed one (that way you can run like hell, if your 'foe' doesn't like your opinions).

Linda.

[bee]

Jurica- you are an artist-you must know this- "the first is the eye that sees, the second is the object seen, the third is the distance between them"- does it refer to what you were talking about?

[Tchocolatl]

Discussion can open doors, or close them forever. I think an open door is far more appealing than a closed one (that way you can run like hell, if your 'foe' doesn't like your opinions).

What a strange way to discuss, run like hell when somebody doesn't like your opinions. And I was under the impression that every discussion is an open door. Anyway, again everybody accords on the principle but everybody has a singular idea of how, so comes the Babel Tower again, and it is not (just) a matter or language(s).

Tchoco- who is and what is

Capitaine Haddock

I like to know! I like it you liking me I like you too very much, but you can piss me off with your theories of masculine or feminine power and that sort of nonsense which you propose in full seriousness. But I do like your imagination though. Intellectual wars have been going on for eternity-we would not have the cosmonauts today without them. Don't be afraid of them, they are good for you.

The class is now over for summer, Bee (I refer you to Google).

But I do like your imagination though. Intellectual wars have been going on for eternity-we would not have the cosmonauts today without them. Don't be afraid of them, they are good for you.

What a statement! I agree so much I would sacre you my guru, rigth on the spot if I would not have think like this since I'm borned (I guess).

(Speaking about the matter, now, they have to have a little intellectual war with the engineers I guess, those pieces that kept falling from the "space machine", ey! The Canadian arm can not pick up everything after them, ey! re-wink.)

I would like to solve all the problems of the world with any of you, guys, around - or not - a glass of wine/beer/alcoo/whatever,l to the drunkness - or not.

I just don't like bars very much, though. I doubt we could understand each others, first, second, I could only stay there for 5 minutes 'cause I can not stand the smoke of cigarettes in huge clouds.

It could be nice on a boat, though, among another more suitable place for me.

Furthermore, on a boat, nobody can run out, out of a displease-by-confrontation, we could keep Linda until the end.

[Byron]

4 suicide bombers are dead. 4 more were prepared to kill themselves.
In the words of a senior security advisor, "how many more are waiting in the wings?"
I hope people don't fall into a false sense of security. The maniacal zealots will want to hit back and I am worried that we will suffer far more as a result.
People from my country have declared war on me and my fellow citizens. We have to put our trust in our security forces and pray that they can keep us safe.
The fact that one failed bomber was caught in Rome shows that all of Europe is on alert and by deduction, all of Europe might be the bigger target.

However, to put our lives in perspective, lend a thought to the 750 people who died in India as a result of the monsoon this week. And the 8,000 people killed in Iraq in the last 10 months. ie: 800 each month. And the thousands starving to death in Niger.

[Tri-me]

The bars in New Brunswick are smoke free. Well, there was a bomb scare in Toronto yesterday. There is racial tension building up even here in Canada. The US border allowed a man to pass in to the US

....By then, Despres had crossed into the United States, though border officials seized several items from him, including a can of pepper spray, brass knuckles, a hatchet, a sword and a chainsaw that appeared to be splattered with blood. The court documents also reveal that Despres told the officials he worked for President George Bush. In spite of their concerns, the border guards decided that Despres, as a naturalized U.S. citizen, should be allowed to enter the country.

http://nb.cbc.ca/regional/servlet/View? ... to20050608 If he were a man of colour he would have been up the creek. The fact that he had duo citizenship got him into the states. Risking sounding like an alarmist I think things are going to be worse before they get better.

On the positive side Army begins dismantling its posts
The Army has started dismantling watchtowers The Army has begun dismantling a number of security posts and bases in south Armagh following the IRA's statement saying it had ended its armed campaign.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4726249.stm

[Paula]

They have now arrested all the second rush of bombers. Hopefully the young Muslim youth will not be suckered into terrorism so easily as they have before.

The good news is the IRA have decided to call an end to war.

[lizzytysh]

Yes, I heard that this morning about the IRA. Tony Blair's questioning it due to apparent renigs on it in the past, but I'm guessing it's for real this time. Maybe, just watching these bombers has been too much for them? Maybe, some people they've known? The timing doesn't seem so coincidental.

[Byron]

The whole of GB is watching the current situation and arrests. In this heightened state, the IRA has declared that it is renouncing the violent struggle.
It is a very opportune moment to make such a statement and reap the kudos that will flow from it.
If one were to be slightly cynical about the IRA announcement, one might say that the incredible amount of 'intelligence' work that is being carried out now, will be an on-going factor of my country's defences. As such, any sweeps for enemies of the state would automatically trawl up any IRA activities.
In the current view of the people, any attempt by any anti-GB grouping, would meet with a total abhorance and outcry for (summary) justice.
Therefore, the timing of the IRA statement puts them in a better light than they would normally find themselves in, AND it wrong-foots the Unionists in NI, who will have to sit down and take part in proper talks with Adams et al.
There have been many false dawns and we are all taking the IRA declaration with a very cautious acceptance.
We hope it is genuine. Pandora has nothing else to give us.
As to any links between various groups, as suggested by 'florida babe,' I wouldn't like to say. The religious aspect and goals are entirely different.
However, three IRA members have recently been in court in Colombia, for training other nasty factions. Wartime makes for strange bedfellows. eg: Rumsfeldt (spl) and Sadam.

[Tchocolatl]

The bars in New Brunswick are smoke free.

Good. Now when they became alcool free also (and too loud-deafening-music/noise free) I may think to gather there with people that take themselves more seriously.

Tri-me, "there is no decent place to stand in a massacre", as we already know, I can't believe that people with their own brain intact would do any suicidal bombing, no matter what religion or philosophy they are following.



(just too bad, I don't know why this above, does not work, bof...) (Ah! it works, now!, this time, yeah!)


Nobody, nowhere is safe during a war, so just don't do it. But considering how violence is liked in sports, for example, like boxe, or even in sports when it is not necessary, like hockey games, I think that blood and make others suffer to keep them under control is too fascinating a thing for too many that they will keep use "governments" as skapegoat for their own violence for a long time ahead and the Earth will be the heaven garden when by bones will be long desintegreted in the universe. re-wink. (warning to users : abuse of these winking spots can cause winking cancer).

[Tchocolatl]

Tchoco- who is and what is

Capitaine Haddock

I like to know! I like it you liking me I like you too very much, but you can piss me off with your theories of masculine or feminine power and that sort of nonsense which you propose in full seriousness. But I do like your imagination though. Intellectual wars have been going on for eternity-we would not have the cosmonauts today without them. Don't be afraid of them, they are good for you.

Ah..... I can't resist (don't ask next time if you don't want my kind of answers or otherwise just make up with my links )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Ha ... Haddock.29

and in your particular case, because, of the colour of the character and because of this :

"The Captain's coarse humanity and sarcasm acts as a counterpoint to Tintin's often implausible heroism; he is always quick with a dry comment whenever the boy reporter gets too idealistic."

"Haddock uses all sorts of words as insults and curses to express his feelings, such as "blistering barnacles", "bashi-bazouk," "kleptomaniac," "anacoluthon," and "pockmark", but no words that are actually considered swear words".

(Did I keep my average editing times?)

[Tri-me]

Is it....would it ever be possible that there would be no more vioence in the world? This would make an interesting thesis.
My father was a peacekeeper in the Canadian Army. He told me that when he was in Egypt they learnt no not trust children because they could be strapped in dynamite. Suicide bombers in not new and I really don't get it. For martyrdom and the advancement of their families status (which they cannot enjoy) 70 virgins. Virgins can be fun, but someone with experience is a carnival.
I wish everyone could see the film What Remains of Us http://www.nfb.ca/trouverunfilm/fichefi ... n&id=52142 . It is stated in the film that fighting back is not how to regain their independance, meditation is.... not a quote. One of the benefits of the expolsion is the fact the the Dali Lama has gained global notariety. He has never slipped, there are no harmful stories about him. He always talks of peaceful resolution. There have been others like Ghandi. it would be great id the message could and would be adapted.
Like I said this would be an interesting thesis. There would be a great inpact on the global ecomomy. What would hollywood make movies about??? In the movie War of the Worlds, which is set in the fifties, the little girl says when the violence begind, is this terrorsits?. I did not see the movie I was told this, but Hollywood really perpetuates violence and destruction. In an episode of the Simpsons Bart and Lisa were watching a movie and Lisa was covering her face to avoid the violence. Bart said Lisa "You have to watch how els can you be desensitized."
Can you tell I am avoiding the work I have to to today? I am happy to hear of the progress in Ireland and that the four have been arrested.

[Tchocolatl]

Agressivity and violence are two different things. We need one to live. The other I have doubts.

Sometimes I feel like if people think "live in peace" means being passive while, in fact, it tooks a lot of energy and creativity to live in peace.

Childhood. Another interesting subject as we have prejudice of a Walt-Disney-World-childhood, but childhood in reality... hum...

Yep! I know what you mean, Tri-me. Schedule rules the woman. Or at least, it tries . I have to go to the gym and after go on with my schedule. Both I would exchange for a day of happy farniente.