Raining

Byron · Post by **Byron** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 9:30 pm

Coco wrote:Hi ydra,

I am so sorry that you were not paid for your booklet. Please do not think ill of all Cohen fans because of it. Like most communities we are a mixture of the good, the bad, and the ugly. Not all of us are soldiers of the heart, some are Heretics.

Now then, what could coco mean????????????

lizzytysh · Post by **lizzytysh** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 9:33 pm

Dear Helven ~

Thank you so much for your compliments. This whole thing is very painful for me to watch, and I want to wake from the nightmare of it. I hope you will remain strong within yourself, in the face of this, and continue coming here to post, no matter what. I will stay in personal contact with you, regardless, but you have so much to offer others on the Forum. Even though I understand your doing so, you owe no one any explanations. I pray that you will not allow yourself the luxury of further acknowlegement of your vulnerability, with those who have spoken against you. Juliette would do well to retract her comments and conclusions. They are beyond ill-founded. They are unfounded and more than grossly unfair. You don't need to worry about me. My heart is with you. I'm unshakeable, and cannot be budged from your corner, Helven. If you

were a racehorse, I'd bet on you

.

Love,
Elizabeth

Helven · Post by **Helven** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 10:47 pm

If you were a racehorse, I'd bet on you .

Thanks!

You know, when I told my mother about this situation she said, “Huh, offer them to bet if you are Russian or not. They may stake on and then someone of them may arrive here. If those who mistrust you are many and those who trust you are a few, your friends will get a lot of money!”

Love,
TH.

lizzytysh · Post by **lizzytysh** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 11:28 pm

Hi Helven

~

It sounds like a bit of synchronicity between your mother and me

. Shall those of us 'in the know'

celebrate our winnings by going to dinner? One of the nicer restaurants in St. Petersburg sounds good

. Regarding the things you said earlier, I'm glad that my friendship means as much to you as yours does to me

.

Love,
Elizabeth

Helven · Post by **Helven** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 11:57 pm

Okay, you know, Paula, I still believe that Gennelle has traits which are worthy of respect. She is able to admit her mistakes and I respect it. She is able to change her way of conduct in certain circumstances and I respect it too. Also I respect people who are able to learn something through the self-education, and, so far as I remember, Makera told about the fact that it was her way of learning (Gennelle, sorry, if I’m wrong)… That’s just what I think. I don’t expect, of couse, that you’ll think the same.
And I certainly accept your apology.

Elizabeth, we'll celebrate it! Do you remember that emoticon where they were getting drunk?

We'll do that I hope. "...i my eschjo spojom" - these also are the words from one song which mean "We will sing" and have an additional meaning that everything will be okay - something like that.

Heretic · Post by **Heretic** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 11:58 pm

I just had a thought.
(Yes it did hurt, thankyou for your concern.)
What if Helven and Makera are both alter egos of Lizzytysh?
I think i need to go lie down now.

lizzytysh · Post by **lizzytysh** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 12:18 am

Heretic/Partisan/p/"Sex God"/` [the latter probably the most accurate] ~

Might as well throw in Starfish, just to round out the "Party of Delusion" 's guest list

. Try not to concentrate too long on those thoughts of yours, however

. A lie-down is definitely in order.

~ Elizabeth

lizzytysh · Post by **lizzytysh** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 12:25 am

Hi Helven ~

Your song sounds excellent! We can also "lift our glass to the awful truth," and then sing Leonard's "Tonight Will Be Fine" ~ the silver linings behind the clouds. Eureka ~ we have found them

!

Will you be there, Makera? Hopefully, you'll meet us there, too, Paula......and perhaps a few more. For those who stay at home, well, I guess they'll just have to stay stuck in the mud

.

Love,
Elizabeth

Paula · Post by **Paula** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 3:30 am

Okay, you know, Paula, I still believe that Gennelle has traits which are worthy of respect. She is able to admit her mistakes and I respect it. She is able to change her way of conduct in certain circumstances and I respect it too. Also I respect people who are able to learn something through the self-education, and, so far as I remember, Makera told about the fact that it was her way of learning (Gennelle, sorry, if I’m wrong)… That’s just what I think. I don’t expect, of couse, that you’ll think the same.
And I certainly accept your apology.

Elizabeth, we'll celebrate it! Do you remember that emoticon where they were getting drunk? We'll do that I hope. "...i my eschjo spojom" - these also are the words from one song which mean "We will sing" and have an additional meaning that everything will be okay - something like that.
_________________
Where is the beginning of that end which ends the beginning?
K. Prutkov

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What happened to your APOSTROPHIES Helven? They appear to have "changed".

Sorry I don't know how to do the quote thing in the box so I just cut and paste your post.

Helven · Post by **Helven** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 6:22 am

Well, Paula, I'll explain. Usually I write my messages in Word then copy them, go to the Forum and paste in the place for the message body. I do so because Word highlights rough mistakes.
But sometimes I come here with prepared message and see new posting which I'd like to answer. Then I write right in this place.
Sometimes I correct someting in my messages right here too.
And when I write in Word apostrophs are different from those ones that are here.
Right now, for example, I've sent to Elizabeth my written in Word message. And I'm writing my post for you right in the place for reply in the Forum page.
DIXI You can continue to consider me to be a lair. It's the last explanation I give. I'm fed up with this entire situation.

lightning · Post by **lightning** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 6:45 am

Is Helven the proverbial marriage of heaven and hell?

Makera · Post by **Makera** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 8:01 am

Helven/Tanya, WOW!

Ah, "I think that settles it then"... 'cause if that doesn't, nothing will!
Oh yes, Tanya & Elizabeth, count me in! Lets have a 'piss up'...do we chuck our Vodka glasses in the fireplace after that?

Yes Tanya, you remembered correctly, I am self-taught (and never stop learning). Thanks for the appreciation and respect, it is mutual of course. Same to Elizabeth.

Paula, I don't know what you believe I did to you personally to justify your animosity. I have none towards you, and find your straight-forward 'shoot-from-the-lip' style quite entertaining, if a bit acrimonious, at times.

Love,
Gennelle

Coco · Post by **Coco** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 10:10 am

Hi Everyone again!

I have now re-read this thread and I am glad to say that I am on Helven's side. As I said to someone else in a private message: "I believe Helven!" But I do not understand Byron what you mean by posting my reply to ydra here on this thread. Could you explain? I begin to wonder if you, Byron, just might be "Ronnie".

Makera · Post by **Makera** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 11:16 am

Coco~
It is very difficult to fathom why Byron does the things he does; I suspect he doesn't always know him self, either.

However, I can assure you he was not, is not, and is not likely to be 'Ronnie'.

~Makera

George.Wright · Post by **George.Wright** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 11:55 am

I am sad that the Poetry section has become the witchunting ground. Certain members said they would not even visit this section, in the past because it's littered with crap, if only i could see some progess from their visitations.
Georges

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