Live Songs 1973

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Live Songs 1973

Postby phillip » Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:46 am

On the cover of Live Songs 1973 Leonard has his head shaved was wondering if any of you saw Leonard in concert in 1972/73 with his head shaved?? as I have never seen a video of him with his head shaved like the picture on the Live Songs album!

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Re: Live Songs 1973

Postby John Etherington » Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:16 am

Hi Philip,

I saw Leonard at the Royal Albert Hall in 1972, but he had a full head of hair. I believe he shaved his head to join the Israeli army as an entertainer in the Yom Kippur War in 1973. The crop was short-lived, because his hair had grown back to the normal length when I next saw him at the Royal Albert Hall in 1974.

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Re: Live Songs 1973

Postby phillip » Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:30 am

Thankyou for that info! I have seen Leonard 4 times now he is my idol and the greatest ever :D
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Re: Live Songs 1973

Postby tomsakic » Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:53 am

As John said, Leonard did not sport the short haircut around and surely not for the tour - I believe that photo on Live Songs cover is a private photo taken by Suzanne but I cannot recall in which occasion. (Maybe it was because at one point he had an idea to join the army, but the photos of LC entertaining Israeli soldiers in Sinai desert, published in 2009 and were posted on this Forum, show him with normal hair he had then, btw. At that time, 1972-73, LC also started to go to Mt Baldy for Summer withdrawn with Roshi in Zen monastery as well.)
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Re: Live Songs 1973

Postby phillip » Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:54 pm

That explains a lot thanks I did have a feeling that was the reason just wanted to make sure!
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Re: Live Songs 1973

Postby Maarten » Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:26 am

Hi,
Ira Nadel, page 189-191:
...After the birth of his son, Cohen's relationship with Suzanne became problematic...[°Sept 18 1972 - Maarten]
...
...For help, he left Montreal and went to California to visit the Zen master Roshi at Mt Baldy... It was winter and there was snow in the mountains... Cohen lasted a few weeks... then drove back to Los Angeles and called Suzanne. The two of them went to Acapulco, and their experience appears in the poem that begins "O darling (as we used to say)" in The Energy Of Slaves:
Even as we lie here in Acapulco
not quite in each others' arms
several young monks walk single-file
through the snow on Mount Baldy
shivering and farting in the moonlight:
there are passages in their meditation
that treat our love and wish us well
In Acapulco, a photo of Cohen with his Buddhist haircut, taken in a hotel bathroom, shows him glaring at the viewer, one hand holding a cigar, the other looped in a belt. The picture first appeared as an uncaptioned, rear jacket photo on The Energy Of Slaves (1972) and was later used as the cover for his 1973 album Live Songs...
Remark: Adam was born in Sept 72 and mr Cohen went to Mt Baldy for a few weeks after Adam's birth (winter 1972). He then went back to LA and traveled to Acapulco with Suzanne where she (?) took the picture and Cohen wrote the above poem... So that must have been late 1972 (Nov?). Is it possible to have this photograph on the back of -and that poem included in- The Energy Of Slaves, which was published in 1972? I don't know the exact publication date, but it must have been (very) late 1972 then...
Cover of The Energy Of Slaves, with the pic: http://leonardcohenfiles.com/lcbook8.html

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Re: Live Songs 1973

Postby tomsakic » Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:12 pm

Thanks, Maarten, I knew that's it... Only problem when I checked was that Nadel's index shows Live Songs mentioned only on page 194 and although I read around I did not locate this piece of info I remembered. He really has an awful index which stops you to locate many references. (And I of course forgot that I made much better and longer index for the Croatian edition of the book.)
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Re: Live Songs 1973

Postby John Etherington » Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:24 pm

It makes sense that Leonard's cropped hair was for Buddhist reasons. I don't think it was public knowledge that Leonard was visiting Mount Baldy in the early Seventies, but the music press certainly mentioned him joining the Israeli army. This I suspect is why there was an assumption that he cut his hair for his army duties. However, I am wondering whether the "Live Songs" picture was ever used on the back of "Energy of Slaves", as the "cover" at the top of Maarten's link does not have a spine like the English and American editions shown below. I also wonder whether "Energy of Slaves" was published on schedule either in Canada or the U.S.A.? I know there was an ongoing delay with the English (Jonathan Cape) publication because I had to make repeated visits to a shop in Victoria, London in the spring of 1973. They got so used to me going into the shop to ask whether it was available, that they got to know me and gave me a wall poster for the book when it arrived.
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Re: Live Songs 1973

Postby Tony » Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:58 am

It might seem logical to assume that a visit to Mount Baldy would involve shaving one's head! My apologies for trivialising the conversation.
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Re: Live Songs 1973

Postby Maarten » Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:06 am

Tony wrote:My apologies for trivialising the conversation.
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Re: Live Songs 1973

Postby John Etherington » Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:10 am

Well, Leonard grew his hair when he joined the hippies at the Isle of Wight, so logically he might shave his head when joining the buddhist monks (hair-styles were important back then)!
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Re: Live Songs 1973

Postby LisaLCFan » Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:54 pm

John Etherington wrote:However, I am wondering whether the "Live Songs" picture was ever used on the back of "Energy of Slaves", as the "cover" at the top of Maarten's link does not have a spine like the English and American editions shown below.
Hi John,

I have the edition of Energy of Slaves with the Live Songs photo on the back cover (as per Maarten's link), so it does exist!

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Re: Live Songs 1973

Postby John Etherington » Thu Apr 12, 2012 12:08 am

Thanks, Lisa! Was yours a Canadian edition?
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Re: Live Songs 1973

Postby LisaLCFan » Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:27 am

John,

Yes, mine is a 1972 McClelland and Stewart Canadian edition, paperback.

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Re: Live Songs 1973

Postby John Etherington » Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:58 am

Ah, I understand it now...maybe the Canadian edition was only published in paperback? (hence no visible spine on the picture here). That's got me thinking about which of Leonard's books were published in hardcover and which weren't. The ones I've only got in paperback are "Parasites of Heaven", "Flowers For Hitler", "The Spice Box of Earth" and "Book of Mercy". I'm presuming these weren't available in hardcover in the U.K.? I would definitely have bought "Book of Mercy" in hardcover, if I had seen it.

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