Along the way... Discovering Leonard's albums

General discussion about Leonard Cohen's songs and albums
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Re: Along the way... Discovering Leonard's albums

Post by its4inthemorning » Mon Jun 07, 2021 6:39 pm

You've all probably already watched "Marianne and Leonard Words of Love," but we just viewed it last night. I thought I would provide some comments. I would enjoy hearing your own.

The difficulty of making documentaries is that there is a surfeit of material, and one needs to pick and choose what to include and to what depth. A documentary about Leonard with no qualifiers would have to be an unwieldy and impossible task, his life took so many twists and turns that are all important, but long multi-chapter documentaries are risky propositions if the subjects appeal to only a limited audience. By confining the scope to Leonard's relationship with Marianne, Nick Broomfield whittled things down to what I feel was an ideal length.

After choosing what aspects of the relationship to cover, Broomfield had to locate appropriate film (or photographs) that would provide the visuals, and most importantly, he had to determine which individuals from Leonard's and Marianne's past would provide the most interesting stories. In my opinion, Broomfield's selection of story tellers was just about perfect. Jan Christian Molestad's largest role was in connection with Leonard's final letter to Marianne. Just as he said that for Marianne Leonard's letter "closed the ring," so did it start and end the movie so perfectly that one could join the end to the start and make the movie an endless loop. The record producers (John Lissauer and John Simon) had shorter roles, and even though I (and you guys) were already familiar with the stories they told, watching and hearing them tell those stories was quite enjoyable. More of a surprise was Aviva Layton, Irving's wife for some twenty years. The things that she related were things I hadn't heard before. But in my mind, the star story teller of the movie was Ron Cornelius. I loved hearing his anecdotes, and his presence in the movie is what tied the Leonard-Marianne relationship to Leonard's music. The film would have suffered without Cornelius.

As for Hydra itself, some closer views revealed that in fact there have been many changes since Leonard first went there in the 1960s. For example, there is some footage showing the harbor from the air, and it looked a bit different than I recall. I did get a kick out of seeing the guy that went there 60 (I believe it was 60) years ago and has lived there ever since while writing 30 books. (That's only one book every two years, so I guess the joys of being there can affect artistic creativity.)

Finally, I would be remiss if i did not mention how much I loved the footage near the end showing Marianne at a late concert, singing along to the song dedicated to her. I saw Albert Noonan listed in the "thanks to" credits, I wonder if that footage was his?

This is a movie I would watch again (and will do so before we send it back to Netflix); it is not often that I say that about a movie.

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Re: Along the way... Discovering Leonard's albums

Post by B4real » Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:30 am

4, it’s still the same for me now as I posted in this link - I haven’t seen this film yet but I did see the “another" one :)
https://www.leonardcohenforum.com/viewt ... ld#p373362

As a refresher, I thought I’d add this original link with a lot of discussion about the Words of Love film -
https://www.leonardcohenforum.com/viewt ... Broomfield

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its4inthemorning wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 6:39 pm
Finally, I would be remiss if i did not mention how much I loved the footage near the end showing Marianne at a late concert, singing along to the song dedicated to her. I saw Albert Noonan listed in the "thanks to" credits, I wonder if that footage was his?
4, Having not seen this film I don’t know the answer to your question. But it made me remember that I did see a great video somewhere from Europe (maybe Oslo) where Marianne was in the audience and when Leonard was singing So Long Marianne she joined in the chorus. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear to be online now.
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Re: Along the way... Discovering Leonard's albums

Post by its4inthemorning » Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:25 am

Hi Bev,

I am sure it is the same clip, I remember viewing it online as well a long time back. It makes you feel so good to watch it, someone should hunt it down and post it again. I am thinking the video may not be one of Albert's only because it seemed to be shot from slightly above somehow, and Albert and Mar usually managed to get seats closer to the action. There are so, so many videos out there, we should all try to make a point to let the others know when they view a particularly good one. I find perusing Leonard's online videos to be an exceptionally nice way to wast an hour every so often.

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2010 DECEMBER 10 - CAESARS COLOSSEUM, LAS VEGAS / 2012 SEPTEMBER 28 - L'OLYMPIA, PARIS
2012 OCTOBER 3 - PALAU SANT JORDI, BARCELONA / 2012 DECEMBER 13 - K-ROCK CENTRE, KINGSTON
2013 APRIL 6 - RADIO CITY MUSIC HALL, NEW YORK CITY / 2013 JULY 9 - PIAZZA NAPOLEONE, LUCCA
2017 NOVEMBER 4-8 - MONTREAL "TOWER OF SONG" CELEBRATION - RIP, YOU GOT ME SINGING!
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