Never any Good

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Never any Good

Postby Linda » Mon Aug 11, 2003 3:22 pm

Does anyone know who the guy singing Never any Good at the end of Armelle Brusq's Mt. Baldy video is? Armelle and Leonard are in Leonard's car and he plays the song for her on his radio and Leonard makes the comment "I orginally sang the song, I wasn't any good so he got the other guy to sing it" The quality of the Mt Baldy video is poor, but in the credits I believe it says Dem Song, Billy Valerie 1995. If there is a singer by that name I have never heard of him, and can't find anything on him. His voice is familar, however and I do like that gravely voice.

I just love Leonard's Thousand Kisses Deep on the Mt Baldy video, I have said that before. :) but I will say it again.
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Postby Pete » Mon Aug 11, 2003 6:30 pm

I must look at the video again. If my memory serves me correct, the finished version of 1000 kisses is quite different.
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Postby Hanna » Mon Aug 11, 2003 8:05 pm

I found on http://www.leonardcohenfiles.com/brusq.html that the film ends with Never Any Good sung by Billy Valentine.

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Postby Linda » Tue Aug 12, 2003 12:31 am

Thank you Hanna. As you can guess my knowledge of the internet is very limited, I should have been able to find that myself and I did try. :D .

The wording of A Thousand Kisses Deep is totally different in the video than on the album. He must not have liked that version.

Well, now I can see what I can find on Billy Valentine.
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Postby Coco » Tue Aug 12, 2003 2:25 am

Hi Linda,

This is an interesting post. I didn't know A Thousand Kisses Deep had different lyrics in the Mt. Baldy Video than on the CD! I wish we could have Leonard tell us why! :D

I am not good at finding my way around the internet either. :) :( :) I tried to research this Billy Valentine and came up with "Billy Bear's Happy Valentine's Day". :D Somehow I don't think this site has much to do with Billy Valentine or darling Leonard! :D
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Postby jarkko » Tue Aug 12, 2003 11:41 am

You may compare the lyrics of Leonard's "original" poem and the "Ten New Songs" version, copied here from The Blackening Pages and Ten New Songs pages!

THE ORIGINAL POEM (AND SONG on the video):

1. You came to me this morning
And you handled me like meat.
You´d have to live alone to know
How good that feels, how sweet.
My mirror twin, my next of kin,
I´d know you in my sleep.
And who but you would take me in
A thousand kisses deep?

2. I loved you when you opened
Like a lily to the heat.
I´m just another snowman
Standing in the rain and sleet,
Who loved you with his frozen love
His second-hand physique -
With all he is, and all he was
A thousand kisses deep.

3. All soaked in sex, and pressed against
The limits of the sea:
I saw there were no oceans left
For scavengers like me.
We made it to the forward deck
I blessed our remnant fleet -
And then consented to be wrecked
A thousand kisses deep.

4. I know you had to lie to me,
I know you had to cheat.
But the Means no longer guarantee
The Virtue in Deceit.
That truth is bent, that beauty spent,
That style is obsolete -
Ever since the Holy Spirit went
A thousand kisses deep.

5. (So what about this Inner Light
That´s boundless and unique?
I´m slouching through another night
A thousand kisses deep.)

6. I´m turning tricks; I´m getting fixed,
I´m back on Boogie Street.
I tried to quit the business -
Hey, I´m lazy and I´m weak.
But sometimes when the night is slow,
The wretched and the meek,
We gather up our hearts and go
A thousand kisses deep.

7. (And fragrant is the thought of you,
The file on you complete -
Except what we forgot to do
A thousand kisses deep.)

8. The ponies run, the girls are young,
The odds are there to beat.
You win a while, and then it´s done -
Your little winning streak.
And summoned now to deal
With your invincible defeat,
You live your life as if it´s real
A thousand kisses deep.

9. (I jammed with Diz and Dante -
I did not have their sweep -
But once or twice, they let me play
A thousand kisses deep.)

10. And I´m still working with the wine,
Still dancing cheek to cheek.
The band is playing "Auld Lang Syne" -
The heart will not retreat.
And maybe I had miles to drive,
And promises to keep -
You ditch it all to stay alive
A thousand kisses deep.

11. And now you are the Angel Death
And now the Paraclete;
And now you are the Savior's Breath
And now the Belsen heap.
No turning from the threat of love,
No transcendental leap -
As witnessed here in time and blood
A thousand kisses deep.


TEN NEW SONGS VERSION:

The ponies run, the girls are young,
The odds are there to beat.
You win a while, and then it’s done –
Your little winning streak.
And summoned now to deal
With your invincible defeat,
You live your life as if it’s real,
A Thousand Kisses Deep.

I’m turning tricks, I’m getting fixed,
I’m back on Boogie Street.
You lose your grip, and then you slip
Into the Masterpiece.
And maybe I had miles to drive,
And promises to keep:
You ditch it all to stay alive,
A Thousand Kisses Deep.

And sometimes when the night is slow,
The wretched and the meek,
We gather up our hearts and go,
A Thousand Kisses Deep.

Confined to sex, we pressed against
The limits of the sea:
I saw there were no oceans left
For scavengers like me.
I made it to the forward deck
I blessed our remnant fleet –
And then consented to be wrecked,
A Thousand Kisses Deep.

I’m turning tricks, I’m getting fixed,
I’m back on Boogie Street.
I guess they won’t exchange the gifts
That you were meant to keep.
And quiet is the thought of you
The file on you complete,
Except what we forgot to do,
A Thousand Kisses Deep.

And sometimes when the night is slow,
The wretched and the meek,
We gather up our hearts and go,
A Thousand Kisses Deep.

The ponies run, the girls are young,
The odds are there to beat…
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Postby Linda » Tue Aug 12, 2003 6:29 pm

My guess is it is the Billy Valentine who was a R&B singer during the fifties. He was born in 1926 and would have been in his late sixties during the recording of that demo which sounds possible by his voice.

He must have been working on A Thousand Kisses Deep at the time of the making of the video. He makes the comment, I can't remember his exact words, but that he will review the lines to an unfinished song in his mind during a part of the day when he is sitting and will scribble them down in his note book when he gets back to his room. We can be glad he wasn't completely faithful in his meditation. :D

The version on the album is done a bit more mellow I think.
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Postby lizzytysh » Thu Aug 14, 2003 8:03 am

I prefer the complexity and more graphic, "raw reality" aspects of the original poem/Mt. Baldy version ~ for me, it incorporates the Ten New Songs version, plus adds sooo much more.

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