"A new album of original Leonard Cohen songs is in the works"

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Re: "A new album of original Leonard Cohen songs is in the works"

Postby ScottM » Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:23 am

While it’s exciting and welcome news that we will have the opportunity to experience some of Leonard’s unfinished songs, I think we should reserve judgement. I’ve seen Adam perform live and have a couple of his album recordings. I’ve enjoyed what he does and would go to see him play again. However, as a performer, musician, and songwriter, I think that most, including himself, would admit that he is nowhere near as accomplished as his father. In fairness, who is?
My concern is that, in Adam’s eagerness to “finish” these songs..(”I'm going to bring them and see them to completion”) they risk being reduced in quality, particularly if he is going to attempt to make any changes to the structure of the lyrics or, indeed, to the verse itself.
If the sentiment that “this is for all the people out there...” is genuinely held then that is commendable. However, the fact that he refers, almost in passing, to his involvement as part of “the family business” does leave me feeling a little cynical.
I suppose any alternative, you might argue, is that these songs aren’t heard and that, of course, would be a shame. Also, if Leonard has tasked Adam with this and had the confidence in him to complete the task to a standard worthy of his memory, then, I should suspend my reservations and fully support this endeavour.
I genuinely hope that these recordings are produced and released as the “incredible and powerful readings” they obviously deserve to be.
It might not be obvious from what I’ve said here, but I look forward to being proved wrong. I am still excited and will, of course, be buying the album anyway. How couldn’t I?
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Re: "A new album of original Leonard Cohen songs is in the works"

Postby I'm your fan » Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:33 am

I'm glad to read this news. They are an aswer to the question I asked long ago (wether there will be a new album of original songs) here: https://www.leonardcohenforum.com/viewt ... 39#p368239.
As HugoD said, (I agree with him), we kind of expected this but this confirmation is really great. I look forward the coming of this new album.
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Re: "A new album of original Leonard Cohen songs is in the works"

Postby Inna » Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:49 pm

ScottM wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:23 am
My concern is that, in Adam’s eagerness to “finish” these songs..(”I'm going to bring them and see them to completion”) they risk being reduced in quality, particularly if he is going to attempt to make any changes to the structure of the lyrics or, indeed, to the verse itself.
If the sentiment that “this is for all the people out there...” is genuinely held then that is commendable. However, the fact that he refers, almost in passing, to his involvement as part of “the family business” does leave me feeling a little cynical.
Totally agree. While I am delighted by the prospect of listening to Leonard's impeccable lyrics, I am somewhat skeptical regarding the extent of Adam's involvement in the album. That being said, I look forward to the new collection and sincerely hope that my apprehensions are unfounded.
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Re: "A new album of original Leonard Cohen songs is in the works"

Postby Mabeanie1 » Sat Oct 06, 2018 7:19 pm

Inna wrote:
Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:49 pm
ScottM wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:23 am
My concern is that, in Adam’s eagerness to “finish” these songs..(”I'm going to bring them and see them to completion”) they risk being reduced in quality, particularly if he is going to attempt to make any changes to the structure of the lyrics or, indeed, to the verse itself.
If the sentiment that “this is for all the people out there...” is genuinely held then that is commendable. However, the fact that he refers, almost in passing, to his involvement as part of “the family business” does leave me feeling a little cynical.
Totally agree. While I am delighted by the prospect of listening to Leonard's impeccable lyrics, I am somewhat skeptical regarding the extent of Adam's involvement in the album. That being said, I look forward to the new collection and sincerely hope that my apprehensions are unfounded.
I am inclined to trust Adam’s judgement. He worked very closely with his father for a long period of time and made a fine job of producing You Want it Darker. If anyone know’s what Leonard would have wanted to do with these songs it’s Adam. It may be that they had already discussed and worked on many of them - didn’t Patrick Leonard say that he had been working on material for another couple of albums with Leonard?

Let’s keep an open mind and see what happens.

My only reservation personally is that YWID feels like it should be the final word from Leonard - but I will eagerly await and buy the new material along with everyone else ....

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Re: "A new album of original Leonard Cohen songs is in the works"

Postby jerry » Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:01 am

Put these recordings on a boxset. Leave YWID alone. Let it stand as LC's final word.
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Re: "A new album of original Leonard Cohen songs is in the works"

Postby hadley » Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:41 pm

This is great news, fair play to Adam for undertaking such an endeavour. However much talent and experience he has it must be a huge burden / challenge for him given the circumstances, good luck to the guy I say, look forward to hearing what come out!

Anything is better than nothing, is hardly going to destroy Leonard's legacy!!
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Re: "A new album of original Leonard Cohen songs is in the works"

Postby JudasPriest » Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:29 am

Agree with Gerry altho even if it is released as a regular album, get the feeling YWID will still be regarded as his final true work.

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Postby Athnuachan » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:53 pm

JudasPriest wrote:
Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:29 am
get the feeling YWID will still be regarded as his final true work.
I agree. Would be more appropriate.
Think I'll resist buying this Album if it is ever released, having found "The Flame", sadly, a damp squib. Best part of it is the song lyrics, which we already had. Most of the rest of the stuff would have been better left unpublished.
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Re: "A new album of original Leonard Cohen songs is in the works"

Postby nynke » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:46 pm

I understand the reservations some people have made here regarding posthumous releases, but whatever comes out will not alter the status of ‘You want it darker’ as Leonard’s final, shattering commentary on his life and approaching death. The latter part of ‘The flame’ has already in some sense validated the notion that imperfect and uncompleted offerings have their place in the Cohen oeuvre, and applying the same principle to works in progress at the time of his death, as well as other unreleased live and studio material, is absolutely fine by me. Let’s not discourage the money makers with too many advance refusals to buy – a dignified and responsible release programme (like Dylan’s ‘Bootleg Series’, though commercial realities are likely to place limits on the amount of Cohen material that could be aired) is exactly what some of us would value and support.

As far as Patrick Leonard and Adam Cohen are concerned, I think they did a great job - for all its quirky merits, 'Dear Heather' would have been a strange end to Leonard's recording career. That final trilogy speaks to me as intensely and profoundly as the Cohen songs I have known for well over forty years, and I for one am grateful to them for all their enabling and mediating (and creative!) talents.

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