Leonard Cohen Poems at My Space
I agree, Jerry... these seem a rough draft of what Leonard was obviously capable of refining.
Might they appeal to 20-year-olds, however? Absolutely. Some have a definite, Top 40 sound to them, in fact.
Yes ~ an imitation of Leonard. In this case, Leonard a caricature of himself.
~ Lizzy
Well, gotta go. Can't belabour this anymore. It's closing time
.
Might they appeal to 20-year-olds, however? Absolutely. Some have a definite, Top 40 sound to them, in fact.
Yes ~ an imitation of Leonard. In this case, Leonard a caricature of himself.
~ Lizzy
Well, gotta go. Can't belabour this anymore. It's closing time
.
Hi Kush ~
Not sure how you potentially see it as 'backtracking' ~ many a rough draft can be seen as abyssmal... however, since there are some key words and phrases that we're all familiar with in this, it's obvious that our familiarity came via the 'refined' context. For me, the only thing I can concede however, is that, perhaps, in context of the visuals and storyline of the film, the interactions of the characters, and the words being sung vs. read and coming through with music, that it may 'work' in the context of the film. We've all seen those differences, between reading and listening to lyrics.
On the page, however, with the ones of these that I read [I read the beginning ones and then stopped after I scrolled down and saw the number that were there and dismissed them as not being by Leonard, but perhaps a poetry-hopeful taking on his name as a moniker] just don't work. They have a feeling of "oh, baby, baby, baby," teenage, lovesick songs element to them. It appeared that someone was trying to imitate Leonard... and missing. If I'd known you'd rally so quickly and strongly, however, I'd have instituted this as a 'tactic' far sooner. Then, perhaps, I could've been enjoying your appreciation of Leonard's work all this time. I noticed, of course, that you didn't enter in until you knew they were written by Leonard, anyway ... and then, already 'in the know,' appeared and struck your position ... quite out of character for you to defend Leonard's lines 
; in fact, as out of character as it is for me to slam them. Interesting how we came together here .
~ Lizzy
Not sure how you potentially see it as 'backtracking' ~ many a rough draft can be seen as abyssmal... however, since there are some key words and phrases that we're all familiar with in this, it's obvious that our familiarity came via the 'refined' context. For me, the only thing I can concede however, is that, perhaps, in context of the visuals and storyline of the film, the interactions of the characters, and the words being sung vs. read and coming through with music, that it may 'work' in the context of the film. We've all seen those differences, between reading and listening to lyrics.
On the page, however, with the ones of these that I read [I read the beginning ones and then stopped after I scrolled down and saw the number that were there and dismissed them as not being by Leonard, but perhaps a poetry-hopeful taking on his name as a moniker] just don't work. They have a feeling of "oh, baby, baby, baby," teenage, lovesick songs element to them. It appeared that someone was trying to imitate Leonard... and missing. If I'd known you'd rally so quickly and strongly, however, I'd have instituted this as a 'tactic' far sooner. Then, perhaps, I could've been enjoying your appreciation of Leonard's work all this time. I noticed, of course, that you didn't enter in until you knew they were written by Leonard, anyway
... and then, already 'in the know,' appeared and struck your position ... quite out of character for you to defend Leonard's lines ; in fact, as out of character as it is for me to slam them. Interesting how we came together here .~ Lizzy
Nope despite appearrances I do like LC's work. I think he's a great writer but not as good as you think he is. Nobody can be that good.
LC is praised to high heavens on this forum - constantly so - so I see no need to add to that. Plus in my parents native tongue there is an untranslatable phrase which roughly means if you keep saying the same thing over and over all the time the taste of the sound will grow bitter on your tongue Thats pretty much it in a nutshell.
Your recent comments about Bruce Springsteen are scary for the same reasons....
LC is praised to high heavens on this forum - constantly so - so I see no need to add to that. Plus in my parents native tongue there is an untranslatable phrase which roughly means if you keep saying the same thing over and over all the time the taste of the sound will grow bitter on your tongue Thats pretty much it in a nutshell.
Your recent comments about Bruce Springsteen are scary for the same reasons....
Re: Leonard Cohen Poems at My Space
Well, "Fire" is an excelent poem, from Parasites fo Heaven, originally titled "One Night I Burned the House I Loved", and only set to music by Lewis Furey. It's the best piece on Night Magic soundtrack, sung my deep male vocal in Lou Reed metts Leonard Cohen style. What's not surprising, regarding the fact that Lewis Furey was reffered to as "the Canadian Lou Reed". (Read what John Lissauer told about him in the interview on Anjani's site).
All other lyrics are from Night Magic, of course, and they make sense only as the whole, in context of musical. And I think they're quite good, except it's obvious that Leonard made them of outakes, thrown out ideas etc. With him, it's amazing that when he works with/for others, he lowers his personal criteria, and still remains on higher level than everyone others. That only tells he's THAT good. Look at Blue Alert - if he would leave people browsing thru his numerous notebooks of unfinished and "bad" lyrics and poems, we would have dozens of such excellent albums.
I didn't recognise only one song, The Promise, as lighting. Now I see it's also from Night Magic: http://www.leonardcohenfiles.com/window11.html. It makes more sense whern you see it's actually acted (character named Judy, chorus line by Angels).
All other lyrics are from Night Magic, of course, and they make sense only as the whole, in context of musical. And I think they're quite good, except it's obvious that Leonard made them of outakes, thrown out ideas etc. With him, it's amazing that when he works with/for others, he lowers his personal criteria, and still remains on higher level than everyone others. That only tells he's THAT good. Look at Blue Alert - if he would leave people browsing thru his numerous notebooks of unfinished and "bad" lyrics and poems, we would have dozens of such excellent albums.
I didn't recognise only one song, The Promise, as lighting. Now I see it's also from Night Magic: http://www.leonardcohenfiles.com/window11.html. It makes more sense whern you see it's actually acted (character named Judy, chorus line by Angels).
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I humbly apologize for my inability to thusly recognize & appreciate this uniquely supreme artist and saint. I will work on it. (And also on Lucinda Williams)With him, it's amazing that when he works with/for others, he lowers his personal criteria, and still remains on higher level than everyone others.
But the real question is: what is he doing at MySpace?
Yeah, I am afraid I have to agree
once with Kush
(doctor! is it
serious??
)
What is he doing at a place like "My space"???
Or somebody else is just impersonating him?
Dem
once with Kush
(doctor! is it
serious??
)What is he doing at a place like "My space"???
Or somebody else is just impersonating him?
Dem
Last edited by Dem on Mon May 15, 2006 1:27 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Some fans are posting the lyrics, probably copied from The Files.
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