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Senator Ted Kennedy Succumbs to Cancer

Postby lizzytysh » Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:20 pm

[I have no idea what happened to the link for the second quote. When I clicked the blurb with the same photo, this is what I got. The second quote is from a much longer article that I got to the same way, but I now don't have that link.]

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Republicans join Democrats in mourning Ted Kennedy

08/26/2009 1:19:07 AM
By GLEN JOHNSON Associated Press Writer


Sen. Edward M. Kennedy was a Democrat's Democrat, so much so that he became a rallying point for those in his party and an object of derision for Republican opponents.

Yet his affability and capability to span the partisan divide on an array of legislative matters prompted an outpouring of condolences from those in the GOP as well as the Democratic Party following his death Tuesday at age 77 from brain cancer.

"Given our political differences, people are sometimes surprised by how close Ronnie and I have been to the Kennedy family," Nancy Reagan, widow of Republican President Ronald Reagan, said in a statement from Los Angeles.



There are many ways for Americans and others to remember Ted Kennedy, especially with the tragedy of Chappaquiddick. The below is how I'll remember him most:

But in his later years, after he had remarried, he buckled down and came to be regarded as a statesman on Capitol Hill, seen as one of the most effective, hardworking lawmakers Washington has ever seen.

A barrel-chested figure with a swath of white hair, a booming voice and a thick, widely imitated Boston accent, he coupled fist-pumping floor speeches with his well-honed Irish charm and formidable negotiating skills. He was both a passionate liberal and a clear-eyed pragmatist, unafraid to reach across the aisle to get things done.

Over the decades, he managed to put his imprint on every major piece of social legislation to clear the Congress. In fact, for all his insecurities, he ended up perhaps the most influential liberal voice of his time.

"There are very few people who have touched the life of this nation in the same breadth and the same order of magnitude," Obama said in April as he signed the Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act into law.

He arrived at his place in the Senate after a string of family tragedies so terrible it sometimes seemed as if the Kennedys _ America's foremost political dynasty _ were as cursed as they were charmed. He was the only one of the four Kennedy brothers to die of natural causes.

Kennedy's eldest brother, Joseph, was killed in a plane crash in World War II. President John F. Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas in 1963. Sen. Robert F. Kennedy was gunned down in Los Angeles as he campaigned for the 1968 Democratic presidential nomination. John F. Kennedy Jr. was killed in a plane crash at age 38 along with his wife in 1999.

It fell to Ted Kennedy to deliver the eulogies, to comfort his brothers' widows, to mentor fatherless nieces and nephews. It was Ted Kennedy who walked JFK's daughter, Caroline, down the aisle at her wedding.

Tragedy had a way of bringing out his eloquence.

Kennedy sketched a dream of a better future as he laid to rest his brother Robert in 1968: "My brother need not be idealized, or enlarged in death beyond what he was in life; to be remembered simply as a good and decent man, who saw wrong and tried to right it, saw suffering and tried to heal it, saw war and tried to stop it."

After John Jr.'s death, the senator eulogized the young man by saying: "We dared to think, in that other Irish phrase, that this John Kennedy would live to comb gray hair, with his beloved Carolyn by his side. But like his father, he had every gift but length of years."



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Mass. Sen. Edward M. Kennedy dies at age 77

08/26/2009 2:09:45 AM
By GLEN JOHNSON Associated Press Writer


Sen. Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts, the last surviving brother in a political dynasty and one of the most influential senators in history, died Tuesday night at his home on Cape Cod after a year-long struggle with brain cancer. He was 77.

In nearly 50 years in the Senate, Kennedy served alongside 10 presidents _ his brother John Fitzgerald Kennedy among them _ compiling an impressive list of legislative achievements on health care, civil rights, education, immigration and more.

His only run for the White House ended in defeat in 1980. More than a quarter-century later, he handed then-Sen. Barack Obama an endorsement at a critical point in the campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination, explicitly likening the young contender to President Kennedy.

To the American public, Kennedy was best known as the last surviving son of America's most glamorous political family, father figure and, memorably, eulogist of an Irish-American clan plagued again and again by tragedy.

Kennedy's death triggered an outpouring of superlatives, from Democrats and Republicans as well as foreign leaders.

"An important chapter in our history has come to an end. Our country has lost a great leader, who picked up the torch of his fallen brothers and became the greatest United States senator of our time," Obama said in a written statement.

"For five decades, virtually every major piece of legislation to advance the civil rights, health and economic well being of the American people bore his name and resulted from his efforts," said Obama, vacationing at Martha's Vineyard off the Massachusetts coast.

Kennedy's family announced his death in a brief statement released early Wednesday.

"We've lost the irreplaceable center of our family and joyous light in our lives, but the inspiration of his faith, optimism, and perseverance will live on in our hearts forever," the statement said. "We thank everyone who gave him care and support over this last year, and everyone who stood with him for so many years in his tireless march for progress toward justice, fairness and opportunity for all."

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada issued a statement that said, "It was the thrill of my lifetime to work with Ted Kennedy.....The liberal lion's mighty roar may now fall silent, but his dream shall never die."

Former First Lady Nancy Reagan said that her husband and Kennedy "could always find common ground, and they had great respect for one another."

Kennedy was elected to the Senate in 1962, taking the seat that his brother John had occupied before winning the White House, and served longer than all but two senators in history.

His own hopes of reaching the White House were damaged _ perhaps doomed _ in 1969 by the scandal that came to be known as Chappaquiddick, an auto accident that left a young woman dead. He sought the White House more than a decade later, lost the Democratic nomination to President Jimmy Carter, and bowed out with a stirring valedictory that echoed across the decades: "For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream shall never die."

Kennedy was diagnosed with a cancerous brain tumor in May 2008 and underwent surgery and a grueling regimen of radiation and chemotherapy.

He made a surprise return to the Capitol last summer to cast the decisive vote for the Democrats on Medicare. He made sure he was there again last January to see his former Senate colleague Barack Obama sworn in as the nation's first black president, but suffered a seizure at a celebratory luncheon afterward.

He also made a surprise and forceful appearance at last summer's Democratic National Convention, where he spoke of his own illness and said health care was the cause of his life. His death occurred precisely one year later, almost to the hour.

He was away from the Senate for much of this year, leaving Republicans and Democrats to speculate about the impact what his absence meant for the fate of Obama's health care proposals.

Under state law, Kennedy's successor will be chosen by special election. In his last known public act, the senator urged state officials to give Democratic Gov. Deval Patrick the power to name an interim replacement. But that appears unlikely, leaving Democrats in Washington with one less vote for the next several months as they struggle to pass Obama's health care legislation.

His death came less than two weeks after that of his sister Eunice Kennedy Shriver on Aug. 11. Kennedy was not present for the funeral, an indication of the precariousness of his own health.

In a recent interview with The Associated Press, Kennedy's son Rep. Patrick Kennedy, D-R.I., said his father had defied the predictions of doctors by surviving more than a year with his fight against brain cancer.

The younger Kennedy said that gave family members a surprise blessing, as they were able to spend more time with the senator and to tell him how much he had meant to their lives.

"There are very few people who have touched the life of this nation in the same breadth and the same order of magnitude," Obama said in April as he signed the Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act into law.

Kennedy arrived at his place in the Senate after a string of family tragedies. He was the only one of the four Kennedy brothers to die of natural causes.

Kennedy's eldest brother, Joseph, was killed in a plane crash in World War II. President John F. Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas in 1963. Sen. Robert F. Kennedy was gunned down in Los Angeles as he campaigned for the 1968 Democratic presidential nomination. Years later, in 1999, John F. Kennedy Jr. was killed in a plane crash at age 38 along with his wife.

It fell to Ted Kennedy to deliver the eulogies, to comfort his brothers' widows, to mentor fatherless nieces and nephews. It was Ted Kennedy who walked JFK's daughter, Caroline, down the aisle at her wedding.

Tragedy had a way of bringing out his eloquence.

Kennedy sketched a dream of a better future as he laid to rest his brother Robert in 1968: "My brother need not be idealized, or enlarged in death beyond what he was in life; to be remembered simply as a good and decent man, who saw wrong and tried to right it, saw suffering and tried to heal it, saw war and tried to stop it."

After John Jr.'s death, the senator said: "We dared to think, in that other Irish phrase, that this John Kennedy would live to comb gray hair, with his beloved Carolyn by his side. But like his father, he had every gift but length of years."

His own legacy was blighted on the night of July 18, 1969, when Kennedy drove his car off a bridge and into a pond on Chappaquiddick Island, on Martha's Vineyard. Mary Jo Kopechne, a 28-year-old worker with RFK's campaign, was found dead in the submerged car's back seat 10 hours later.

Kennedy, then 37, pleaded guilty to leaving the scene of an accident and received a two-month suspended sentence and a year's probation. A judge eventually determined there was "probable cause to believe that Kennedy operated his motor vehicle negligently ... and that such operation appears to have contributed to the death of Mary Jo Kopechne."

At the height of the scandal, Kennedy went on national television to explain himself in an extraordinary 13-minute address in which he denied driving drunk and rejected rumors of "immoral conduct" with Ms. Kopechne. He said he was haunted by "irrational" thoughts immediately after the accident, and wondered "whether some awful curse did actually hang over all the Kennedys." He said his failure to report the accident right away was "indefensible."

After Chappaquiddick especially, Kennedy gained a reputation as a heavy drinker and a womanizer, a tragically flawed figure haunted by the fear that he did not quite measure up to his brothers. As his weight ballooned, he was lampooned by comics and cartoonists in the 1980s and '90s as the very embodiment of government waste, bloat and decadence.

But in his later years, after he had remarried, he came to be regarded as a statesman on Capitol Hill, seen as one of the most effective, hardworking lawmakers Washington has ever seen.

A barrel-chested figure with a swath of white hair, a booming voice and a thick, widely imitated Boston accent, he coupled fist-pumping floor speeches with his well-honed Irish charm and formidable negotiating skills. He was both a passionate liberal and a clear-eyed pragmatist, willing to reach across the aisle to get things done.

Kennedy's speech in accepting defeat to Carter electrified the Democratic convention and turned out to be a defining moment. At 48, he seemed liberated from the towering expectations and high hopes invested in him after the death of his brothers, and he plunged into his work in the Senate.

First elected to the Senate in 1962 to his brother John's seat, easily re-elected in 2006, Kennedy served close to 47 years, longer than all but two senators in history: Robert Byrd of West Virginia (50 years and counting) and the late Strom Thurmond of South Carolina, who died after a tenure of nearly 47 1/2 years. Kennedy's career spanned 10 presidencies.

His legislative achievements included bills to provide health insurance for children of the working poor, the landmark 1990 Americans with Disabilities Act, Meals on Wheels for the elderly, abortion clinic access, family leave, and the Occupational Safety and Health Administration.

He was also a key negotiator on legislation creating a Medicare THIS IS SPAM! benefit for senior citizens and was a driving force for peace in Ireland and a persistent critic of the war in Iraq.

Kennedy did not always prevail. In late 2008, he unsuccessfully lobbied for niece Caroline's appointment to the Senate from New York. New York Gov. David Paterson chose then-Rep. Kirsten Gillibrand instead.

Wildly popular among Democrats, Kennedy routinely won re-election by large margins. He grew comfortable in his role as Republican foil and leader of his party's liberal wing.

President George W. Bush welcomed Kennedy to the Rose Garden on several occasions as he signed bills that the Democrat helped write.

"He's the kind of person who will state his case, sometimes quite eloquently and vociferously, and then on another issue will come along and you can work with him," Bush said shortly before his first term began in 2001.

But Bush was also the target of some of Kennedy's sharpest attacks. Kennedy assailed the Iraq war as Bush's Vietnam, a conflict "made up in Texas" and marketed by the Bush administration for political gain.

Kennedy and his niece Caroline shook up the Democratic establishment in January 2008 when they endorsed Obama over Hillary Rodham Clinton for the nomination for president.

After Obama won in November, Kennedy renewed words once spoken by his brother John, declaring: "The world is changing. The old ways will not do. ... It is time for a new generation of leadership."

Born in 1932, the youngest of Joseph and Rose Kennedy's nine children, Edward Moore Kennedy was part of a family bristling with political ambition, beginning with maternal grandfather John F. "Honey Fitz" Fitzgerald, a congressman and mayor of Boston.

Round-cheeked Teddy was thrown out of Harvard in 1951 for cheating, after arranging for a classmate to take a freshman Spanish exam for him. He eventually returned, earning his degree in 1956.

He went on to the University of Virginia Law School, and in 1962, while his brother John was president, announced plans to run for the Senate seat JFK had vacated in 1960. A family friend had held the seat in the interim because Kennedy was not yet 30, the minimum age for a senator.

Kennedy was immediately involved in a bruising primary campaign against state Attorney General Edward J. McCormack, a nephew of U.S. House Speaker John W. McCormack.

"If your name was simply Edward Moore, your candidacy would be a joke," chided McCormack.

Kennedy won the primary by 300,000 votes and went on to overwhelmingly defeat Republican George Cabot Lodge, son of the late Ambassador Henry Cabot Lodge, in the general election.

Devastated by his brothers' assassinations and injured in a 1964 plane crash that left him with back pain that would plague him for decades, Kennedy temporarily withdrew from public life in 1968. But he re-emerged in 1969 to be elected majority whip of the Senate.

Then came Chappaquiddick.

Kennedy still handily won re-election in 1970, but he lost his leadership job. He remained outspoken in his opposition to the Vietnam War and support of social programs but ruled out a 1976 presidential bid.

In the summer of 1978, a Gallup Poll showed that Democrats preferred Kennedy over President Carter 54 percent to 32 percent. A year later, Kennedy decided to run for the White House with a campaign that accused Carter of turning his back on the Democratic agenda.

The difficult task of dislodging a sitting president was compounded by Kennedy's fumbling answer to a question posed by CBS' Roger Mudd: Why do you want to be president?

"Well, it's um, you know you have to come to grips with the different issues that, ah, we're facing," Kennedy said. "I mean, we can, we have to deal with each of the various questions of the economy, whether it's in the area of energy ..."

He bowed out of the race after getting roundly beaten by Carter in the primaries and losing a rules battle at the Democratic convention. Later, when asked to assess the campaign, he replied: "Well, I learned to lose, and for a Kennedy that's hard."

Kennedy married Virginia Joan Bennett, known as Joan, in 1958. They divorced in 1982. In 1992, he married Washington lawyer Victoria Reggie. His survivors include a daughter, Kara Kennedy Allen; two sons, Edward Jr. and Patrick, a congressman from Rhode Island; and two stepchildren, Caroline and Curran Raclin.

In 1991, Kennedy roused his nephew William Kennedy Smith and his son Patrick from bed to go out for drinks while staying at the family's Palm Beach, Fla., estate. Later that night, a woman Smith met at a bar accused him of raping her at the home.

Smith was acquitted, but the senator's carousing _ and testimony about him wandering about the house in his shirttails and no pants _ further damaged his reputation.

Kennedy offered a mea culpa in a speech at Harvard that October, recognizing "my own shortcomings, the faults in the conduct of my private life."

Later on, his second wife appeared to have a calming influence on him, helping him rehabilitate his image.

Kennedy's family life has been marked by illness.

Edward Jr. lost a leg to bone cancer in 1973 at age 12. Kara had a cancerous tumor removed from her lung in 2003. In 1988, Patrick had a noncancerous tumor pressing on his spine removed. He has also struggled with depression and addiction and announced in June that he was re-entering rehab.

Kennedy's memoir, "True Compass," is set to be published in the fall.


I'm sorry that Ted didn't live to see the gift of univeral health care come to fruition. Our country's political scene will miss him greatly and his family will miss him even more. With all the Kennedys's losses, he really did become their rock and their strength.

My heart is with everyone who is grieving his loss.


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Re: Senator Ted Kennedy Succumbs to Cancer

Postby ladydi » Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:41 pm

Thanks Lizzy for posting the articles. I think we all knew that his death was fairly imminent but it seems especially poignant that it was so close to the passing of Eunice. Now the whole "older" generation of Kennedys are gone....the family most of us over a certain age grew up being immersed in. When he was younger, Ted unfortunately did not handle himself well and even today there are many "stuck" in Chappaquiddick who have not been able to see beyond that point. He became the respected elder statesman. He became the well-loved and respected "head" of the family. His oratory is legendary and even though he came from limitless wealth he was always concerned about the working person, and I too wish he could have lived to see his dream of universal health care become a reality.

My sympathies to all who will miss him.

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Re: Senator Ted Kennedy Succumbs to Cancer

Postby lizzytysh » Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:44 pm

Hi Diana ~

Ted has done so much good for our country. Despite the Chappaquiddick tragedy, he redeemed himself in the eyes and hearts of many with his depth of caring, diligence, and extremely hard work for the working class, the poor, and the have-nots in this country. He never rode on the laurels of the Kennedy wealth and was always acutely aware of the issues that plagued those who weren't born into privilege. Yes, it may have been that there was a part of him that chose to end the pain of losing his beloved, and also deeply caring, sister, Eunice Shriver, by just letting go and going on with her. It's a tremendous loss for our country that he's gone.

Thanks for sharing as you did.


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Re: Senator Ted Kennedy Succumbs to Cancer

Postby Parsifal » Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:54 am

If the Have Your Says in the UK are to be believed, Kenedy was loathed in Britain: the standard comments seem to be 'IRA sympathiser who allowed a girl to drown while he consulted his lawyers'.
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Re: Senator Ted Kennedy Succumbs to Cancer

Postby lizzytysh » Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:59 am

Hi Parsifal ~

Yes, some people will hold to that incident as the encapsulation of who Ted Kennedy was in his life. He said that leaving the scene was indefensible and I agree. It was a bizarre incident and I'm not surprized that he turned to heavy alcohol usage after it. Eventually, he redeemed himself in other ways, though. Unfortunately, the distillation of his life bypasses the reams of good he did for our country. It's one of the reasons I'm cautious about criticizing the politicians and leaders of other countries. The context of a life of public service is simply not there for people who aren't from here... though, people are likely to seize on the issues that were key to them. I think that may be human nature. Not that everyone here adored him, but he was widely and deeply admired by many, regardless of political affiliations or beliefs. I can only speak for myself and my immense admiration and gratitude for what he accomplished for our country that his brothers and his nephew were denied the opportunity to do. He still had plans to do more good and I'm sorry he has lost that chance. May he rest in peace and may the memories of him become kind ones and inclusive of a long life well spent.


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Re: Senator Ted Kennedy Succumbs to Cancer

Postby GinaDCG » Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:45 am

I hope that Kennedy's best eulogy will be with the passage of a health care bill that brings the US into the 21st Century and into the rest of the 1st world.
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Re: Senator Ted Kennedy Succumbs to Cancer

Postby MaryB » Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:48 am

Ted Kennedy had so much to overcome after Chappaquiddick and overcome it he did with his diligence in helping working class people. He was admired by and worked well with many Republicans, not just members of his own party. History will remember him as one of the greatest Senators. He will be missed. My sympathies to all his family and friends.

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Re: Senator Ted Kennedy Succumbs to Cancer

Postby PanCogito » Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:49 pm

In accordance to my rule, write or talk highly about deceased or remain silent; I’d rather be quiet right now. Let’s leave his live and achievements to the historians.
My sincere condolences to his family and friends.

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Re: Senator Ted Kennedy Succumbs to Cancer

Postby lizzytysh » Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:43 pm

I hope that Kennedy's best eulogy will be with the passage of a health care bill that brings the US into the 21st Century and into the rest of the 1st world.

I agree, Gina. He called it "the 'cause' of my life" and he fought tirelessly for it.

I agree, too, Mary, on how Ted Kennedy will be remembered. If no one moves into the space of willingness to work hard with everyone for compromise, at the same time maintaining warmth, humour, and true friendship with them, our system here is going to suffer.

From a site titled "A Lifetime of Service":
http://tedkennedy.org/service

SENATOR KENNEDY
BY THE NUMBERS

47
Years in the Senate

15,235
Votes Cast


Reflecting Kennedy's role as a peacemaker in Northern Ireland was a delegation from the troubled province: Shaun Woodward, secretary of state; Martin McGuinness, deputy first minister; and Gerry Adams, leader of the Irish republican party Sinn Fein. Irish Prime Minister Brian Cowen and Sarah Brown, wife of British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, also attended.

This seems to relate to the Irish issue. These people attended Kennedy's funeral today.

I feel horrible that Ted Kennedy has died. Somehow, you hope against hope that he'll be cured, and realizing how he's now taken that legacy with him; as they just said on NPR, the Kennedys are a family we've followed more than 50 years. I've been moved by the anecdotes that are coming out now about all the 'little' things that Ted did for 'little' people. He had such a very real humanity.

As NewsGal on Anjani's site noted:

"If it wasn't for Ted Kennedy, we Americans wouldn't have the Family Medical Leave Act . . . or the WIC nutrition program so mothers and their children can get the food they need for good development. That's true public service."

Raising the minimum wage for the lowest-paid workers here was also a cause of his... on some bill [I can't remember if it was that one or another], he garnered the support of another Senator by letting his name be listed first on the authorship of the bill [suggesting that he was the primary author]. Kennedy readily agreed to that condition, as who benefitted by it meant more to him than who was credited for it.


"Every American should have the opportunity to receive a quality education, a job that respects their dignity and protects their safety, and health care that does not condemn those whose health is impaired to a lifetime of poverty and lost opportunity."

Supporting the Troops and Defending the Nation
As a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee and Chairman of the Subcommittee on Seapower, Senator Kennedy fought tirelessly for the men and women of our armed services and their families.

Ensuring Disabled Americans Can Live Productive Lives
A sponsor of landmark legislation including the Civil Rights Commission Act Amendments and the Americans with Disabilities Act, Senator Kennedy worked his entire career to secure a higher quality of life for men and women with disabilities.

Ensuring High Quality Education for All
Making sure everyone had access to a high-quality education – particularly the most disadvantaged – was a major legislative priority for Senator Kennedy throughout his career in the United States Senate.

Protecting the Environment and Promoting Energy Efficiency
Senator Kennedy had a long and distinguished record as a supporter of clean, renewable sources of energy who sought to reduce the nation’s reliance on fossil fuels.

Providing a Leading Voice for Human Rights and Democracy around the Globe
During his career in the United States Senate, Senator Kennedy was a leading voice for human rights, social justice and democracy throughout the world.

Fighting for Quality, Affordable Health Care
Throughout his Senate career -- and especially during his service as Chairman of the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee -- Senator Kennedy championed the cause of quality, affordable health care for all Americans.

Championing Civil Rights & Promoting Fairness and Equal Opportunities for All
Senator Kennedy believed that civil rights remain America’s great unfinished business, and he had a major role in every civil rights battle in Congress for the past half century.

Fighting for Workers’ Rights and a Fair Minimum Wage
Senator Kennedy spent his career standing up for the rights of workers, the backbone of America's economy, battling for workplace safety, mine safety, fair wages, the right to organize and more.


Many historians are already having their positive say on Kennedy and they include both liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans... and it is positive. He will literally be irreplaceable in the inner workings of our government.

I think being a certain age and having lived here through all the Kennedys... having known them and lost them... adds to what this means... and not having experienced them so directly, as people elsewhere wouldn't have, makes a difference.

I'm glad Ted had the year before he died to receive the accolades, appreciation, and gratitude that he had coming.
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Re: Senator Ted Kennedy Succumbs to Cancer

Postby PanCogito » Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:56 am

Read Henry Rollins "Where's Mary Jo Kopechne's Eulogy?" please.

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Re: Senator Ted Kennedy Succumbs to Cancer

Postby lizzytysh » Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:53 pm

Yes, I know what you're saying, Roman, I really do. I know we're all different, but these are my personal feelings about it. I was here when all of that happened. I never felt it was intentional in any way, and I believed him when he said he panicked. It was a narrow bridge and, even though he denied it, I always felt he had been drinking; though, maybe I was wrong in that. Mary Jo Kopechne died a tragic death and there were many eulogies of varying kinds at the time. There was much furor and much speculation. Her bright life was gone far too soon. Ted's leaving the scene of the accident was indefensible. At Ted's passing, there is no reason, however, to have a eulogy for Mary Jo. Doing that means staying focused on the past in a way that seems to want only revenge. There is no forgiveness in it.

To focus on that tragedy at this time is to harbour anger and bitterness about what happened in a car in which only they were the occupants. I cannot focus on that night, where I was not present, and ignore all the good and great things that this man has done for individuals and this country in the many years since. I only wish Mary Jo were still here to have done great things with her own life and to be offering her own condolences.

Who am I, who are you, who is anyone, to hold the gavel of judgement. If he wasn't drinking at the time, he certainly turned to drink after that, seemingly consumed by and trying to drown his feelings of guilt [which is not the same as saying "Guilty"]. He may have tried to honour her life and make it up to her in the only way he thought he could, by doing all the good he possibly could in the years that followed. He reportedly shut down certain feelings that remained dormant until his widow, Victoria, reawakened them in him many years later. Who knows in what personal ways he paid for what happened at Chappaquiddick? Feelings of guilt and remorse exact their own toll.


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Re: Senator Ted Kennedy Succumbs to Cancer

Postby GinaDCG » Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:39 pm

I in no way wish to objectify the M. J Kopechne who died on the bridge due to Kennedy's negligence. But we're all on a life journey here, and many of us never feel the impatient shake of death's hands clenched about our upper arms "This is serious! Don't you get it! A few years and then it's gone! What are you gonna do about that?" From my distance of several degrees or removal I conjecture that it was Chappaquiddick which became Kennedy's death shake. No, you can not look at just the good he did without remembering Chappaquiddick. But no, you can not look at Chappaquiddick without looking at what Kennedy did with his life in the Senate.

The reason why we say "skeletons" in the closet is to convey in this oft-quoted metaphor the seriousness of the crimes many of us have in our past. That's not rotting cheese or a neglected box of cat litter -- that's a rotting "skeleton." Except Sen. Kennedy's skeleton wasn't in a closet but was tragically displayed for all the world to see. Many of us drink a few too many, or get distracted while changing the radio station or (this happened to me just last week!) scrutinizing a new sign advertising some new vapid materialist craving and we make a split-second mistake and nearly cause an accident. But we are saved by chance. Are we any less guilty then those whose distractions and imperfections are not resinded at the last moment by chance?

Which is why I can not see Kennedy’s culpability in Kopechne's death as the over-riding event of his life. It's in toto that he should be viewed.

And yes, I do see that driving the car off the bridge is one issue and leaving the scene is another. Immaturity. (Or the immediate medical consequences of a brain injury.) But again, the difference between immaturity and accountability often comes down to that "death shake" moment which, if we were fortunate enough, we experienced in our youth before the consequences of our actions became that grave and sinister. Character? or chance? I don't know -- which, again, is why I have rather broad attitudes of judgement.

I was "sloxing" down a hill one day ( like sledding, except you take a refrigerator box, flatten it, and rub the bottom with an old candle or wax paper) when I ran into a sycamore tree. I apparently picked myself up and went on with my life and woke up 2 days later with no memory of the intervening time. (My friend from across the street saw me immediately after the accident when I had assured her I was fine. This is how I know what happened.) So I completely sympathize with someone who walks away from an accident scene and goes about their life as if nothing happened. If someone had been behind me on my "slox" (which, according to Patty, was NOT the case) then I too may have walked away from a gravely injured friend.

Makes me slow to judge. There but for the grace of G . . .
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Re: Senator Ted Kennedy Succumbs to Cancer

Postby imaginary friend » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:37 pm

Yes, Ted Kennedy's actions after the accident at Chappaquiddick appeared to be cowardly and self-serving.

... Yet he spent the rest of his life seeking redemption, in a life of public service, and as a powerful voice for Americans less fortunate than himself.

IMO, he deserves to be recognized as an American patriot.
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Re: Senator Ted Kennedy Succumbs to Cancer

Postby lizzytysh » Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:01 am

Gina ~

I agree that the shock of the moment can, albeit seeming totally conscious, in fact be amnesiac. When the Redgrave daughter died after her skiing accident, she too said she was fine and soon slipped into a coma. Any impact has impact. I've been shocked to experience how painful it is to 'hit' an unseen curb at only 5 mph and some part of my body strikes a stationary part of the car. To have water rushing in and feeling you're drowning. I have no idea of Mary Jo was already knocked out or drowned at the point that Ted got out of the car. Again, I can't attest to what went on inside it, so anything and everything is speculation. A comment was made by some broadcaster about Ted's having felt the 'curse of the Kennedys' and that wouldn't surprize me.

In so many other ways, he stood strong for the weak and the powerless here, which I have to say is likely something he's wished a thousand times he had done for Mary Jo. But we don't get to relive life. "Chappaquiddick" and "Ted Kennedy" and "Mary Jo Kopechne" will always be synonymous, I would say. No one was more aware of that than Kennedy himself. He threw all of his being into his public service and did so until the very end. If he were actually "Guilty As Charged," then rehabilitation and redemption would be the preferred outgrowth of that activity. There are countless bills, laws, and personal acts that attest to 'rehabilitation' and redemption. Where we're able, we make choices on how to remember people. I'll never forget what happened that night, but I prefer to remember what Kennedy became and remained as a person throughout the remainder of his life than what he was during shock and confusion inside of an hour of it. Amnesia, like sleep walking, is well known to present as 'normal,' yet without memory. I don't know if that's what happened to account for the approximately three hours before the accident got reported, but I know enough about what's happened since then to know that, that dreadful night doesn't define Ted Kennedy.

As someone who has also experienced 'near misses' whilst driving, as well as a couple accidents, I agree with "There but for the grace of G~d... "

He fought too hard for the downtrodden and have-nots and worked too earnestly and closely with people roundly considered to be the 'opposition' to not be considered one of our American patriots. The reports I'm hearing are soundly placing him in that category.


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