Leonard Has Passed Away

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Re: Leonard Has Passed Away

Postby Violet » Fri Dec 02, 2016 4:31 pm

Zennard wrote:
Thank you for your meditation. What made you write this in 2008?
And thank you for your appreciation.

I actually don't recall why I wrote it just then. Sometimes a poem just comes to one, and I believe this is one of those.

Really, there are so many things I still don't understand, such as why I even came to this forum, or how I even found it or heard about it.

.. eventually, a number of years after writing the poem -- and other poems having to do with Leonard -- I would find myself writing letters to him in the "back room" -- where forum members post their own writing. He was touring then. The whole thing was rather crazy. But then the back room was pretty crazy (as those of us who have spent any time back there know). I remember writing some of my very worst poems back then too (!) (Oh, and hopefully some fairly good ones.)

Anyway, there's more to the story, but it's not for now. For now I guess it's just to take in this loss, and try to heal. If things were less personal then this would be easier to do. I could just appreciate the wonderful work he's given us, and be happy for it. Eventually, I imagine that's where I'll arrive with things. But just now, there are all these layers inside that I have to work through. All these good-byes, I guess.

Thanks again, Z,

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Re: Leonard Has Passed Away

Postby vickiwoodyard » Fri Dec 02, 2016 5:27 pm

On Leonard Cohen

I sat in silence this morning, and it wasn’t long until my heart turned towards Leonard Cohen. He was like that. One man radiating like the sun, drawing us in and keeping us faithful to that light. After all, he was a man of the people, private as he was. That was part of his mystery, how he penetrated the darkness inside so many of us. I find his last album ironic that it was penned by such a giver of light. One cannot get into darkness, I suspect, as one gets into light. But there it is. It is a fact of life, that darkness that he describes and portends. We get shivers now as his absence seems to hail darker times ahead.

How did he, and does he, and will continue to, break into our darkness so readily? He is a figure of mystery, as all lovers are. He was impeccable except when it came to love. But he couldn’t help himself. His tailored suits could not protect him from loving women too promiscuously. He had his flaws like all of us do.

No one has been able to say an unkind word about him since his demise. That is because love is stronger than hate. And he seemed to hate nothing and no one on a personal level. He railed against situations in song, but it was an impersonal rant always followed by his own hallelujah.

I read the many testimonies now since his body has been laid to rest. I weep again and again for the personal void left in so many hearts around the globe. They, like me, will continue to have Leonard sing them to sleep at night. They will dream of him. They will yearn towards the lighthouse of his being. And he still is. Someone like him cannot put out their light by simply casting off the body. Oh, no, no, no, as he gruffly intones in one of his songs. There is a table of love he simply cannot leave.

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Re: Leonard Has Passed Away

Postby Martin n brown » Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:08 pm

I wrote a poem Leonard,
It’s the best that I can do
To try to tell the world the way I feel
‘Bout losing you.

Your poetry of sadness
Always made me feel alive.
Although there’ll be no more
We have sufficient to survive.

You helped me through the darkest hours.
You took me to a place
Where beauty met confusion,
In another time and space.

When I was at my lowest points
I shut myself away
With the words that helped me lose myself
And fight another day.

And if I felt euphoric
In the winter by the fire,
A cup of wine and “Hallelujah”
Took me even higher.

The sense of loss I’m feeling
Is far less than I feared.
I think I was prepared for it
As time it slowly neared.

My sadness is quite selfish
To know that there’s no more
But you are such a part of me
That there’s no closing door.

So thank you for the beauty,
The laughter and the tears.
Marianne is waiting
And now suddenly appears.

(Optional final verse)
Your timing it was perfect
When your heart it ceased to pump
At least you will not have to bear
Four years of f---g Trump.


Sincerely, Martin Brown
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Re: Leonard Has Passed Away

Postby leonardthedog » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:10 pm

Touched, Martin.

And I like the last verse.

I think Leonard would have too.

love
and
blessings,

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Re: Leonard Has Passed Away

Postby musicmania » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:53 pm

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Re: Leonard Has Passed Away

Postby davidrichards » Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:26 pm

Am I in a minority finding the "Optional final verse" both inappropriate and offensive?
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Re: Leonard Has Passed Away

Postby surrender » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:42 pm

Thank you, davidrichards, at least you are not alone.
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Re: Leonard Has Passed Away

Postby Zennard » Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:29 pm

There is a danger in posting things what Mr. Cohen would and/or would not have liked. We did not know the man personally, even though the lyrics were sometimes highly personal. But we will have to leave it at that, we can speculate what or what not he would have liked. But we can never make the assumption that he would have liked this or dislike that. So please use some restraint. That is my plea.
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Re: Leonard Has Passed Away

Postby icecreamtruck » Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:10 pm

I'm no fan of Trump but I hate the last verse. I think it's tasteless and totally banal.

But I defend his right to post it.
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Re: Leonard Has Passed Away

Postby real-alan » Mon Dec 05, 2016 8:02 pm

you may be right, I may be crazy.... but it just may be a lunatic you're looking for...

blah, blah, blah, blah, blah..... plenty
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Re: Leonard Has Passed Away

Postby Squidgy » Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:35 pm

icecreamtruck wrote:I'm no fan of Trump but I hate the last verse. I think it's tasteless and totally banal.
But I defend his right to post it.
I defend his right also, but it's been posted repeatedly. Enough already.

FWIW, those who presume Leonard would somehow approve of the sentiment, I would remind them Leonard was a devout, observant Jew.

Who thinks the song Lover, Lover, Lover is about romance? It's about Israel.

His grandfather was an activist in the Zionist movement.

Leonard famously defied the BDS boycott by performing in Israel; in response to the outcry, he agreed to additionally perform in the Palestinian section, and expressed his wishes for peace with his characteristic grapce and kindness. The second performance was a response to pro-Palestinian, anti-Israel political factions who attacked him; but first, he supported Israel by defying the boycott.

Mrs. Clinton as Secretary of State helped broker the Iran nuclear deal; as candidate she accepted millions in campaign contributions from nations and groups seeking the annihilation of Israel.
Mr. Trump has made his support of Israel and the safety of Jews in their homeland --and his opposition to Islamic terrorism and unprotected borders----quite clear.

That said, I cannot, will not presume to speak to Mr. Cohen's feelings about the outcome of the election were he still with us. I suspect his comments, should he publicly address the subject at all, would be gracefully nuanced, philosophical, kind, and hopeful for the best---regardless of which candidate had prevailed.
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Re: Leonard Has Passed Away

Postby Zennard » Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:32 am

Squidgy wrote:
icecreamtruck wrote:I'm no fan of Trump but I hate the last verse. I think it's tasteless and totally banal.
But I defend his right to post it.
I defend his right also, but it's been posted repeatedly.
I too, will defend his right. Just to be clear.
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Re: Leonard Has Passed Away

Postby lortigosa » Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:24 am

Almost a month since he passed away... and still mourning. I didn't want to enter the forum, but I finally did. So sad. It was a shock for me. Couldn't stop crying for two whole days. And now still do when suddenly the thought comes to my mind that he's not among us anymore.
He will always be revered and remembered.
Rest in peace.
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Re: Leonard Has Passed Away

Postby davidrichards » Tue Dec 06, 2016 12:08 pm

Given that there appears to be a "right" to post what you wish, and to do so repeatedly; and given that what I considered to be inappropriate and offensive has been edited slightly since yesterday maybe the post of "Unspoken Words" should also be repeated, as "surrender" did yesterday.

"Please just reflect with dignity. It is only time for reflection, silence and grace."
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Re: Leonard Has Passed Away

Postby surrender » Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:10 pm

Empty and quiet
I sit in meditation
a deep silence mourns.

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