Concert Reports

Concert reports, set lists, reviews, photos and You Tube links. Fan meet-ups before and after the concerts.
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Concert Reports

Postby TipperaryAnn » Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:54 am

Is there any way of separating the concert reports from all the video links? We now have to plough through acres of video stuff before finding an actual concert report!
(I'm trying not to watch the videos before attending the concert; anyway it's much more interesting to read someone's personal reaction to what they have seen and heard.)
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Re: Concert Reports

Postby Mabeanie1 » Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:42 pm

I have a similar sort of issue with the concert report threads. It's a particular bugbear of mine. The concert reports threads get opened, often by someone who will not be going to the concert or even someone on the other side of the world from where the concert is taking place. The threads then get filled up with Wikipedia info on the venues (widely available to anyone who can use Google) followed by re-posts from Joey's FTR blog, Tweets ("Hooray, I'm at a Leonard Cohen concert"), press articles and links to videos (which I very rarely watch - give me a good quality bootleg recording any day). We seem to be on page 8 by the time anyone who has actually been to the concert could possibly post their review and I for one have lost the will to live by then. I want to hear from people who were there but I can't be bothered to look for the eyewitness reports amid all the YouTube and other links. It's almost as if we need a separate thread for people's personal responses to the concerts.

I've raised this before but got "shouted down". It seems people like to have all the "concert related" stuff in one place so most of the time I just don't bother looking at the threads. I just go to the setlists threads to see what was played.

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Re: Concert Reports

Postby TipperaryAnn » Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:55 pm

Mabeanie1 wrote: I want to hear from people who were there but I can't be bothered to look for the eyewitness reports amid all the YouTube and other links. It's almost as if we need a separate thread for people's personal responses to the concerts.
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That would be much better, Wendy. Any Mod. prepared to try it? :idea: When you do plough through all the "stuff" the actual eye /ear witness accounts are scarce enough so far this time - they could be easily accommodated on one "I was there" thread covering all the concerts.
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Re: Concert Reports

Postby jarkko » Wed Sep 05, 2012 6:14 pm

In principle I understand what you mean, but in practice it is really difficult to keep the threads clean from messages that should be in other threads. The changes you're suggesting would not make things any easier!
The number of threads would be doubled if we opened separate "I was there" and "This is the venue" -type of threads. And we already have pretty many threads!
Also, the idea is to keep all these threads as they are, for the future use in the years to come, when there are no tours any more to follow. Later it will be interesting to see what kind of venues were used etc. while reading reviews of members who were there.
And many (most) concert reports are not so long, let's say 3-5 pages, so everybody is able to read only messages that are of interest.
If all "I was there" reports were put in just one thread, to cover all concerts, after 50 concerts that thread would have 50-100 pages, without any logic, because new comments are being posted also weeks after a concert.
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Re: Concert Reports

Postby bridger15 » Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:14 pm

I am with you all the way, Wendy. And I understand your explanation, Jarkko.
So, I suppose the only remedy available is to prevail upon the transgressors to temper their enthusiasm for posting anything and everything.

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Re: Concert Reports

Postby cohenadmirer » Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:51 pm

Personally i like the fact that i know when i visit a concert report thread there will be such diverse content ! A comprehensive account of the concert experience available in many forms.
I think it's easy enough to skip the bits that don't interest you on any given occasion- plenty others will be interested .
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Re: Concert Reports

Postby TipperaryAnn » Thu Sep 06, 2012 2:38 am

Thank you for your detailed explanation, Jarkko. Of course you are right - the "I was there" thread would get very long eventually! (Although having one for each venue rather than for each concert might help.)

Strictly speaking, on a thread called Concert Report there should be nothing but Concert Reports! But I can see your point about the archives, too, and the difficulty of keeping a thread "intact"; a thread develops a life of its own and one comment leads to another, etc. So it isn't easy...

Later edit : Crystal's morning after report on the Berlin concert is just SO good to read - this is what it's all about.
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Re: Concert Reports

Postby TipperaryAnn » Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:05 pm

TipperaryAnn wrote:
Strictly speaking, on a thread called Concert Report there should be nothing but Concert Reports! But I can see your point about the archives, too.
Later thoughts - would you really want all those Google translations in "pigeon English" in the archives? Painful stuff.. Most of them probably weren't great in the original language, even, being posted by hacks doing a job of work, who couldn't care less about LC, and in some cases couldn't even get the song titles correct.

The reports I enjoyed reading were those from real people who were actually there, for example Rigray on the Dublin thread who still has his stub from LC's National Stadium concert in 1976. Now THAT deserves a place in the archives - the Google atrocities don't!
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Re: Concert Reports

Postby sue7 » Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:18 am

TipperaryAnn wrote:
Later thoughts - would you really want all those Google translations in "pigeon English" in the archives? Painful stuff.. Most of them probably weren't great in the original language, even, being posted by hacks doing a job of work, who couldn't care less about LC, and in some cases couldn't even get the song titles correct.

The reports I enjoyed reading were those from real people who were actually there, for example Rigray on the Dublin thread who still has his stub from LC's National Stadium concert in 1976. Now THAT deserves a place in the archives - the Google atrocities don't!
What is "painful" to some of us is interesting to others.
I know that I've said this before, but I don't see why one can't simply scroll past the stuff that isn't interesting to you. The forum is there to satisfy many different people with different tastes.

Also, the idea that the videos and the personal concert reports are necessarily from separate people, and that one could easily or helpfully separate them simply isn't accurate. There are plenty of people who post their own videos up. I know that Linda (sturgess66) and others do an amazing job of collecting videos and posting them up. For me (and for plenty of others, I suspect) these lists of video links are really helpful. Personally I have no wish to spend time in people's personal channels on Youtube: I just don't have time, and am grateful to all who take the trouble and time to do the posting on the forum.
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Re: Concert Reports

Postby B4real » Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:15 am

sue7 and cohenadmirer, Amen to that!
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Re: Concert Reports

Postby sue7 » Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:14 pm

bridger15 wrote: So, I suppose the only remedy available is to prevail upon the transgressors to temper their enthusiasm for posting anything and everything.

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This sounds positively ominous, Arlene! :) I don't see any "transgressors" here, only differences of opinion as to what is optimal for one's use of the forum for information.
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Re: Concert Reports

Postby Doris » Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:43 am

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