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Postby vlcoats » Fri Jun 09, 2017 4:12 pm

Hey 4-

If you are still checking this thread......I have been waiting for your review of the 'new' album. What did you think of the song about the mare?

Sincerely but not so very patiently,
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Postby its4inthemorning » Sun Jun 11, 2017 4:16 pm

Yes, of course I have been reading this thread with interest.

Finally had the opportunity to listen to Recent Songs. As always, his lyrics are impeccable and stand on their own, but my initial reaction to the music was it's all over the place.

Favorite tracks are The Gypsy's Wife, followed closely by Ballad of the Absent Mare, The Window, and The Guests, here are a few initial thoughts:

The Guests and The Window - Love his vocals and love the violin. Music and overall impact seems reminiscent to his earliest albums for which I am happy. The lyrics seem very deep to me, these are songs that will require much time to digest; with only two listens I am still at the stage where I only see beautiful mental imagery that still needs to be interpreted.

Humbled in Love - Exquisite lyrics, but I wish there was also a tune. Feel badly for saying that, but I know that wherever LC now is, he would certainly have better things to do than read reviews!

Came So Far for Beauty and the Traitor - Until I dig deeper, I would characterize these as 'songs of love and guilt' Cannot listen to Came So Far without imagining LC in a piano bar entertaining the patrons. Really love the lyric "Should rumor of a shabby ending reach you, it was half my fault and half the atmosphere."

Un Canadien Errant - What was John Lissauer thinking re the mariachi band? Very difficult to get beyond that, sorry LC, but of course you are not reading this. Do think it is somewhat cool that LC was somewhat fluent in a second language, he did a heck of a job with "La Manic" in several of his 2013 Canadian concerts (I believe "La Manic" was on his last live CD).

Our Lady of Solitude - Liked this with first listen, also seems reminiscent to his early work. This song will continue to grow on me.

The Gypsy's Wife - Love the imagery, love the bohemian (is that the right word, I hope so) feel, and love the lyrics, for example, "I've heard all the wild reports, they can't be right." This was played in all of the concerts we attended.

The Smokey Life - Have not absorbed enough to really comment other than to say I wish there was a bit more instrumentation.

Ballad of the Absent Mare - Yes Vickie, this became a favorite in one listen, it could just as easily been on one of his first two albums. Given all the rural imagery, I am not surprised Ballad captivates you. LC apparently had some sort of fascination with crickets, they are mentioned in other songs besides this one.

Obviously I need to spend more time with Recent Songs.

Vickie, a question: When LC's first three CDs were re-released, one of them included a bonus song not on the original called "Store Room," which I liked a lot (it was never on any other album that I know of). Is Store Room on your CD, and if so, what did you think of it?

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Postby vlcoats » Sun Jun 11, 2017 6:59 pm

4!
Thank you so much for your reply! I loved reading your reviews. I am crazy busy today with just beginning my summer (the blessings of working for a school district!) and having just made a quick 12-hour trip to Montana yesterday to pick up our 10 year old nephew who will be spending a month or so with us, so I will respond in a day or two regarding your reviews and your question about "Store Room". Just wanted to say thanks for getting back to us here (if I may speak for others in this thread). I have just started listening to Dear Heather and will comment on that also (so far it is a bit of a surprise).
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Postby its4inthemorning » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:40 pm

Vickie, I had to laugh when you said you just returned from a "quick 12-hour trip to Montana," I guess your geographic sphere is expanded when you live in the wild west. What made your comment stand out is, we are currently hotly debating whether a trip to see Charleston, SC is worth the grueling 11-hour trip (which we would probably spread out over two days anyway)!

Ten-year old nieces/nephews make perfect weeders, suggest you put your visiting nephew to work in he garden. Just be sure to carefully explain which plants are the good ones.

Just read a short piece about Leonard by Jennifer Warnes, I think you will enjoy reading it:

http://www.slow-journalism.com/leonard- ... fer-warnes

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Postby vlcoats » Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:53 pm

Oh yes 4, distances are real here. I lived in Massachusetts for a (very) long 7 years, and I will never forget how shocked I was to find everything so close that I could go through 4 townships in the space of 5 minutes and cross an entire state in an hour. To say I was thrilled when I finally came back west would be an understatement. Not that I enjoy driving 30 minutes to get a gallon of milk, but I can breath here. Your history is more interesting over there though.

Dear Heather....
Lisa, you were right about the last song on the album being an immediate favorite! I loved it within seconds. I am having a hard time listening to most of this album though. I don't have the best stereo setup, except in my car-- which now that I have a 10 year old chirping in my ear every minute (Hey Aunt Vickie, look! Aunt Vickie, did you know....? Aunt Vickie, Aunt Vickie...Aunt Vickie!) I am having a hard time finding a quiet spot to absorb this album. It is hard to hear some of what Leonard is saying. It is more of a poetry recital with accompaniment than an album of songs. But, I do have some definite first impressions of a couple of the tracks.
Tennessee Waltz has always been a favorite, and I feel like I have known the words my whole life. It is one of the songs my dad would sing, along with The Strawberry Roan (a song I am certain Leonard would have liked as well!) What a treat to hear this one sung by Leonard Cohen.
Because Of- Well Leonard, if you think I am going to fall for this kind of crap, you would be absolutely right! This song is hard to not love. I realize that there may be several righteous women out there who might think it condescending or that he is attempting to turn women into a combination of mommy/stripper/nun, but how can you deny the sentiment? This was a man who loved women, whether they deserved it or not. I am sure he was no angel but I am also sure there were some women in his life that didn't deserve his singing about their mystery either. Anyway, I did love this one. Too short though.
The Letters- Like most of the songs on this album, I need some quiet time to figure it out, but I was taken with the opening phrase right away. "You never liked to get the letters that I sent". It could mean so many things.

Bottom line on this album for me is... I need time and some quiet to see what I think. In fact, I finally talked my husband into getting the pair of Studio Beats (headphones) that I have been coveting and had sitting in my cart on Amazon for months, just so's I could listen to Leonard better. I am waiting for them to arrive!

I would love to hear any tidbits about Dear Heather from you all that would help me figure it out. What was he thinking with this one? I have read that it wasn't that well received by the public. Is that true here on the forum as well?

Thank you for the link to the article by Jennifer Warnes. I didn't realize they were that close. What a lucky lady. She makes him sound like such a wonderful friend.

Thanks again everyone! (and yes 4, I am trying to keep my nephew busy with chores and reading... but I see now why so many parents stoop to allowing video games, lol)
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Postby B4real » Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:07 am

Hi Vickie,
Sounds like life is happening to you while you are busy making others plans :) I’m remembering the first time I played my CD of Dear Heather. I totally wasn’t prepared for all the duets and female voices at all and wasn’t quite sure what to think about that. I do know I just wanted Leonard’s voice to be more prominent overall. I’m more than happy with simply just his voice and his guitar alone. It took me a while to get a handle on this album. On reflection, to me DH is a bit like a patchwork quilt – pieces of fabric with different shapes, colours, shades and textures of materials accumulated over time and now put together. Even so, most songs seems to have an affinity to the Crosses and Losses pattern ;-)

Also take a moment to consider that this album was LC’s first to be released after the devastation of 9/11 (On That Day is about that day) and it does have other songs of subdued shades and solitary shapes including those with dedications to dead poets etc. There are different vocal textures with the shared songs and “no words this time” Morning Glory but there are some bright colour splashes of humour eg Dear Heather and Because Of. And to end it all off, a live flowing dance floor of midnight blue with Tennessee Waltz.....hummm, maybe I do have a touch of synaesthesia in my thinking :razz:

I do like Nightingale and also Anjani’s slower version on her Blue Alert album. On DH Leonard plays the Jews harp at the end of both Nightingale and On That Day. Every time I hear the Jews harp played I always think of a line from Master Song, “with the music of rubber bands” because I hear that twang! To me sometimes the Jews harp (not actually a Jewish invention) sounds like the Australian aboriginal didgeridoo (no rubber bands involved) maybe because both are monaurally melodic. They can be harmoniously played together.

The song I like the most is The Faith – maybe because the melody was originally an outtake from one of my favourite albums which 4 has recently acquired ;-) and spoken about and of course I love Raffi’s violin playing in it.

The cover for the album is a modified part of LC’s drawing “They gave me a medal for dreaming of you” later published in full and partly on some pages in Book of Longing and also sold complete as a print.

Hi 4,
Speaking of remastered songs on the first album Songs Of LC, as well as Store Room there was Blessed Is The Memory. Maybe some thoughts about it could be interesting as well.

And with the Recent Songs album, I read/heard/saw somewhere years ago that Humbled In Love, from what I can remember, when LC was asked if he disliked any of his songs he said he was embarrassed by this one. I can’t find anything to specifically back that up at the moment but I think it’s close to those words.
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Postby vlcoats » Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:12 pm

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Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:07 am
Hi Vickie,
Sounds like life is happening to you while you are busy making others plans :) I’m remembering the first time I played my CD of Dear Heather. I totally wasn’t prepared for all the duets and female voices at all and wasn’t quite sure what to think about that. I do know I just wanted Leonard’s voice to be more prominent overall. I’m more than happy with simply just his voice and his guitar alone. It took me a while to get a handle on this album. On reflection, to me DH is a bit like a patchwork quilt – pieces of fabric with different shapes, colours, shades and textures of materials accumulated over time and now put together. Even so, most songs seems to have an affinity to the Crosses and Losses pattern
Thank you B4! I totally agree with you there. I commented something similar to that to my husband. Guitar is my favorite instrument and I just want to hear Leonard and would be fine with just his voice even in his deep low whisper.
Please tell me what you mean by 'Crosses and Losses' pattern. Are you just talking religion and love or something else? I tried to Google it but only got quilting block directions!

You said you think of Master Song when you hear the Jews harp. I always think of Last Year's Man because of the Jews harp on the table line.

Thank you for revealing why the tune of The Faith was so familiar to me! I've been waiting for my headphones to get here before really listening to Dear Heather again in earnest but I will listen for that when I do.

About the 2 added songs on Songs of Leonard Cohen, I had read in Simmon's bio that Leonard didn't like that these 2 songs were added to the CD version of the album, saying they ruined the integrity or something like that. So, in my (sometimes misplaced) sense of right and wrong, I decided to pay them no mind and didn't record them along with the rest of the album to my phone for listening on the go and have even tried to skip them when listening to the CD. Eventually I realized how silly I was being, and now I listen to them often now along with the rest of the album and Store Room has its place in my heart. The fun galloping faster and faster feel to it got me right away, and I keep trying to figure out if he is talking about things that are being taken away from us or things that we are taking for ourselves. My favorite line was "You don't even try to prove that the noise is neighbors making love", although not sure if I get what he's talking about there. I also like "Blessed is the Memory" although not quite as much as Store Room. The mention of German paper weights, trains in the snow, and children makes me thing of the Holocaust, and I wonder if that is the main theme of this song or just passing images for it.

When I think about what the lyrics all mean, I always think about 4's earlier comment regarding the blackbird's throat. I listened to Bob Dylan's Nobel Peace Prize lecture a week or so ago, and he said something about how writers don't always know themselves what they mean when they write. "But it sounds good. And you want your songs to sound good." I liked that part of his speech the best. I have often wondered if that was true... not only about Dylan but Leonard and other artists as well. But for me at least, it is sometimes impossible to hear the lyrics and not wonder where they came from.

It's funny what you said about LC not liking Humbled in Love. I liked this song a lot right away. The deep baritone and almost dramatic tongue-in-cheek sound of the title lyrics cracked me up, and something about him asking why they were complaining so much, when he was right there in the mud with them got me on a more serious level.

Thanks again for your thoughts on everything B4. I appreciate hearing that you also were taken aback a little with Dear Heather. I will listen to it again a few more times before I go to the next one.

I only have 3 studio albums left... I am excited to get there...but also very sad.
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Postby B4real » Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:55 am

Vickie wrote: Please tell me what you mean by 'Crosses and Losses' pattern. Are you just talking religion and love or something else? I tried to Google it but only got quilting block directions!
He he! Vickie, it’s the same as for my “alpha” simile – you won’t find my meaning in Google! But as you’ve found out, it is an actual patchwork quilt pattern. To keep that patchwork concept in the context of my words, I was relating a traditional pattern called Crosses and Losses to most of the songs on DH. And yes, I am talking about religion and also loss.

About Humbled In Love – when LC was asked if he disliked any of his songs, he didn’t actually say directly that he disliked this song; he just said he was embarrassed by it. Remember, he is the master of the elusive answer! It could mean that he did like this song but there were lines in it that maybe later on he regretted writing or making public or perhaps 4 may have a point about the tune and that may have been the embarrassment. Whatever the reason, this song was never played in concert.
Vickie wrote: I also like "Blessed is the Memory" although not quite as much as Store Room. The mention of German paper weights, trains in the snow, and children makes me thing of the Holocaust, and I wonder if that is the main theme of this song or just passing images for it.
There’s every chance you are right on both occasions. You may know this, but the title Blessed Is The Memory is very close to the Jewish term "Of Blessed Memory" that is used when referring to someone who has passed away. But this song was first called Everybody’s Child so maybe it is generally speaking about all children.

I agree with not over analysing meanings (I know I’ve said this quite a few times before) because it can destroy the very thing that draws you to it in the first place! But it is a double edged sword because you are so intrigued by what it means and want to know so you can understand the intention of the writer but as you know (I like your quote on what Bob Dylan said - I haven’t listened to his speech yet) the writer himself doesn’t always know why he wrote what he did. As a visual artist, I can say this happens to me all the time. I most always have a plan on how I’m going to paint/draw a picture but inevitably that plan goes out the window and unconsciously I find myself completing the artwork without knowing how it happened! And as to what the end result means .... that’s another story!

“I understand my work is confusing enough to be construed as many things, I feel the same way about it myself!” - LC

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Like a sage, a man of vision
Though he knows he’s really nothing
But the brief elaboration of a tube”
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Vickie wrote: I only have 3 studio albums left... I am excited to get there...but also very sad.
And you will never pass this alpha way again, but please know this - the omega here is truly only another beginning ;-)
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Postby its4inthemorning » Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:34 pm

The "bonus songs" on the re-release of his first three albums always make me wonder, what other song projects are sitting in boxes somewhere because they were not quite up to Leonard's standards? I expect that eventually some of this work will surface, and I have great hopes that this will be done in in a way that will honor Leonard and his fans rather than solely for monetary reasons. These hopes are bolstered by the fact that those who would have the most say are his children and his loyal manager/friend Robert Kory. We will see.

Vickie, you are approaching the end of your "Introduction to Leonard Cohen" studies. Don't worry, there will not be an exam (*) and you get to grade yourself! To me the last three studio albums seem to have a lot in common, they showcase Leonard's voice and for the most part dispense with elaborate instrumentation. It is impossible to listen to these albums without realizing that, near to or in his eighties, he must have known that they were his final opportunities to convey his deepest thoughts. "Old Ideas" was released in 2012 when he was still touring, so a number of the tracks were performed in his 2012-2013 tours. "Popular Problems" and "You Want it Darker" were released after his final tours, so (with the exception of Born in Chains which he played in some concerts before "Popular Problems" was released) their songs were never played live. I know you will like what you hear.

(*) The last time I took an exam was more than 40 years ago. Even so I still, to this day, occasionally have dreams about being woefully unprepared for an upcoming college exam. These dreams always puzzle me since for the most part I normally did well in exams. The human brain is a strange place.

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Postby B4real » Fri Jun 16, 2017 2:51 am

its4inthemorning wrote:
Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:34 pm
I expect that eventually some of this work will surface, and I have great hopes that this will be done in in a way that will honor Leonard and his fans rather than solely for monetary reasons. These hopes are bolstered by the fact that those who would have the most say are his children and his loyal manager/friend Robert Kory. We will see.
There's every chance we haven't heard the last words from LC - see here:
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Postby vlcoats » Fri Jun 16, 2017 4:43 pm

B4real wrote:
Fri Jun 16, 2017 2:51 am
There's every chance we haven't heard the last of LC - see here:
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=37221&hilit=back#p364269
This must be the 'omega' kind of stuff of which you speak! As bittersweet as the near-end of this first leg of my journey is, I am very excited to check out the rest of the forum,the live albums, and the DVDs I have waiting when I finish the studio albums.

About Humbled in Love, you have me wondering if there were other songs that he chose to leave out of his live performances (besides those on his final albums of course). I remember 4 saying something about not hearing one of my very favorites (The Stranger Song) live in his later concerts, but to NEVER play a recorded song live is interesting considering how carefully he chose the songs he recorded in the studio.

I liked the quote you shared about LC being confused by his own work. I wonder if that frustrated him or maybe he felt like us- that to pick it apart would destroy it. You mentioned you are an artist. I'd like to hear more on that, like for how long and what style/subject matter attracts you the most?

4--- As for my final exam on "Intro to Leonard Cohen", if I were to grade myself, I would give myself an A for effort, and C for comprehension. You have made the final 3 albums sound very interesting! I am very excited to open Old Ideas.

I have just received my new headphones, and they are amazing! What a difference in listening to Dear Heather! I didn't receive a formal musical education growing up, and I may never know what true studio sound is, but I was definitely raised with a layman's appreciation for music, and in my mind these headphones do what they are advertised to do and the closest I will come to studio sound. They are awesome. My husband told me he is resigned to the fact that he has now lost me to Leonard for good. (Thankfully, he is an indulgent guy and finds my antics amusing.)

Thanks!
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Postby vlcoats » Sat Jun 17, 2017 4:57 am

Favorite part of my day? Taking my nephew roller skating for his first time and amidst disco ball lights and summer school crowds of children.... hearing Hallelujah appear over the sound system on the heels of Lady Gaga's Poker Face!... Golden!
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Postby B4real » Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:50 am

:lol: Vickie, that last post of yours made me laugh out loud!

And of course you know your journey has but yet begun! Glad your new headphones sound truly excellent!

With studio songs not played in concert there are possibly 33 not counting the last two studio albums. You know, all of the songs from the Dear Heather album were not played in concert either, with the exception of the last live track Tennessee Waltz which was played in many 1985 concerts. Probably varying reasons for some songs to make it live and others not. A few of thoughts immediately come to mind are that LC considered the words and/or musical arrangements weren’t suitable to the concert environment or they were just too personal for him to sing to a large audience ....Or he didn’t like them .... :)

And seeing as you like LC quotes, here’s a few more on the subject of how he feels about the meanings and understanding of his work. The first two sentences below relate to that last quote in my previous post - those four lines you will hear for yourself, apparently very clearly and very soon ;-)

“I think the truly write of poetry transmits a certain kind of wisdom that we don't have, but to which we are only the way. When I penetrate into the slow and painful writing of a song, there are certain realities bigger and better than me that manifests and I don't command anymore. The rest is only my personal, foolish and chaotic life.
I don’t think my writing has got personal enough yet. I think it has some way to go before it gets really personal. When it’s really personal everybody understands it. There’s a middle ground which is just unzipping and self-indulgence but when you really tell the truth people immediately perceive that.”


Cohen says he abides by only one maxim in his writing - to always honour the difference between just a cry and a piece of work:
"A cry of pain in itself is just that; it can affect you or you can turn away from it. But a piece of work that treats the experience that produced the cry of pain is a different matter altogether. The cry is transformed, alchemised, by the work by a certain objectivity which doesn't surrender the emotion but gives it form. That's the difference between life and art."

“If I didn’t have a large public, I would still sing, because I think that everybody understands the songs. We don’t understand perfectly what we say to each other in words, but we always understand each other. And it’s the same way with my songs. The texts are sometimes difficult, but even when you sit with somebody and you listen to them speak about their lives, you can’t follow the meaning from word to word or from sentence to sentence. But something else comes through; something of the person himself or herself comes through. And so it is with my work, although the meaning of each line may be obscure.”

The interpretations placed on Cohen's songs vary from listener to listener. What people make of his songs often surprises him:
"But the songs are empty, and you can put into them what you want to put into them.”

I’ve also heard him describe his words as ice cubes :)

Vickie wrote: You mentioned you are an artist. I'd like to hear more on that, like for how long and what style/subject matter attracts you the most?
Ah Vickie, I was born with a crayon in my left hand! Ever since I can remember I have drawn or painted. Also I have been professionally involved in the art industry most of my working life. I’m since retired and now playing the violin is competing with my artwork for my attention! Because I’ve been doing art for so long it doesn’t matter what style or subject matter I do. The effect I want to create usually dictates how and what I use to get that. I have an eclectic taste with art as I do with music. I have been an art teacher, art consultant, bought and sold original art (including my own), prints, art materials and framed of all types of works of art so that may account for it. But I can say that the latest art I have completed are my portraits of Leonard that I’m incorporating into a book I’m very slowly compiling, some shown here and some still works in progress for the internal pages: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=36625

Since I joined the forum, for LC’s birthday most years I gave him a portrait of himself. One of those, a pencil portrait, was fortunate to be chosen for the back cover graphic of a several pages “Thank you LC” card given to him for the 2008-10 tour. The card pages included personal thank yous that many members wrote to him for all the concerts etc. viewtopic.php?f=3&t=23296&hilit=thank+y ... 75#p260491

Still on that same “subject matter”, I was fortunate to win (shared with two others) first prize in the logo design competition to celebrate the 20 years anniversary of The LC Files. Mine is the first one in order, the oval design: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=36235

I am so grateful for this and I treasure the special gift with personalised words Leonard sent to me for being one of the winners. Such a comforting feeling to me now when I look at it and read those words.
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Postby vlcoats » Sat Jun 17, 2017 5:47 pm

Oh B4, your art of Leonard is beautiful. I especially loved the image that looks like it's from the Isle of Wight concert. I love your style. Thank you so much for sharing a little of your art. It appears you deserve to have received a personal thank you from him. I would say you are so lucky to have received that personal note from him, but you earned it, so luck doesn't play into it much. I couldn't find the drawing you did for him for his birthday in the link you shared though (did I miss something?). You say you also play the violin. No wonder you like Raffi so much! I do envy those with enough natural talent to make a living with their art, but I am not so naive to think it comes without sweat and tears and practice. Kudos to you!

I love the LC quotes also. Especially the one that talks about unzipping. When I was attending massage classes several years ago, we were taught to actually go through a pantomime of zipping up from crotch to neck before beginning a massage when we wanted to create boundaries with clients and unzipping when we wanted to help them to relax. I have used the trick of zipping up before job interviews and presentations whenever I wanted to be 'pulled together' and on my game. Likewise, I will unzip at times I want to stop buzzing about and settle down or before going out to see my donkeys.

I also liked the quote about how even when you don't follow exactly what someone means word for word, something of the person comes through and you understand that.

Not sure about the words being ice cubes? I am guessing it means something like once they are out there, they change form and fill whatever void surrounds them. ??

Thanks again for sharing!
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Re: Along the way ... Discovering Leonard's Albums. continued...

Postby B4real » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:30 am

Thanks Vickie, for your kind words – much appreciated! I received plentiful pleasure from doing those portraits! And yes, you are right about the Isle of Wight one. It was actually my very first portrait of Leonard and it was done for him to commemorate the new DVD release of that occasion. I make my own handmade pastels directly from pure pigments etc. and I used them to draw/paint that portrait. All the images (inc my pencil drawing) from the “thank you book” were posted in that thread but for some reason they are not accessible now – it just says “image” where they were and when I tried to open it in a new tab it says "file not found". Nevermind.

Yes, I did say I play the violin and I use that term rather loosely – I’m always learning and that’s a good thing! If I was a fraction as skilled as Raffi (and Alex) I would be happy! I loved watching Alex playing his violin during the last years of the world tour – so glad Leonard finally found the type of violinist he was looking for.

And that’s a good suggestion about the ice cubes! Ha! Even Leonard was speculating about what he said!
Here’s his full quote From Leonard Cohen: Pondering His Past and ‘The Future’ by Scott Crawford, Intermission, Stanford Daily on 8th April 1993 -

“I like the metaphor, and I’m not sure what it means, but it seems to be right, that I feel my work is like ice cubes in a drink. It just changes the drink. Even though the songs are dense and carefully worked out, it’s very difficult to say exactly what they mean or stand for. But like the taste of cold water, it’s refreshing.”


Now I’ll leave you listen with your new headphones to the Old Ideas album :)
Be for real. Free yourself to find the real Self ~~ Me
Happiness is like learning the violin, the more you practice it the more it comes to you ~~ Me
Without the heart, there can be no understanding between the hand and the mind ~~ Gore Vidal

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