Sylvie Simmon s thinks "Darkness" is about oral sex...

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Re: Sylvie Simmon s thinks "Darkness" is about oral sex...

Postby jdhayes » Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:06 pm

Don't forget to remember that there are times when a cigar is just a cigar, as Freud once said.
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Re: Sylvie Simmon s thinks "Darkness" is about oral sex...

Postby IMM » Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:34 am

jdhayes wrote:Don't forget to remember that there are times when a cigar is just a cigar, as Freud once said.
You must remember this
A kiss is just a kiss, a sigh is just a sigh.
The fundamental things apply
As time goes by.
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Re: Sylvie Simmon s thinks "Darkness" is about oral sex...

Postby blonde madonna » Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:32 am

And a cup is just a cup.

I love this song and am trying to see the religious and sexual angles proposed by others but... Darkness symbolises evil, mystery, shadows about to swallow you up, and depression. One verse in particular just seems to speak to anyone who has experienced depression:

"I've got no future, I know my days are few
The present's not that pleasant, just a lot of things to do
I thought the past would last me but the darkness got that to"

That's just my take on it.
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Re: Sylvie Simmon s thinks "Darkness" is about oral sex...

Postby comehealing » Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:35 pm

Fantastic extract in The Daily Telegraph (UK) today:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/book ... oment.html

Enjoy :)
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Postby comehealing » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:18 pm

I wonder if this poem by Byron was a possible source of inspiration:

http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/173081

I read a piece the other day, about Shakespeare, highlighting how he was
a master of polysemy. It strikes me that polysemous is an adjective that
can be ascribed, with merit, to the maestro from Montreal.

Ah, receieved email this morning to say that biography had been dispatched.
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Sylvie Simmon s thinks "Darkness" is about oral sex...

Postby Darklingsky » Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:45 am

Not so sure I see the oral sex here, although it is never hard to see that aspect in Leonard's poetry and music. Maybe there is some reference here about becoming trapped in the darkness by what we go after in life. We see something we want, maybe it is beautiful or attractive in some way (you're youn and it was summer), but something about what we want is not right (it was red behind your eyes), we go for it anyways despite our better judgement and get caught in he darkness.

Could be a drug, an experience, a career choice, a religion, or a relationship. The darkness comes as we are unable to get out, we feel almost controlled or helpless against it despite the fact that we hate it.

Great song regardless.

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