"The troubles"

Leonard Cohen's previous album (January 2012)
Steven
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"The troubles"

Postby Steven » Sun Mar 18, 2012 6:03 pm

Hi,

The lyrics of "Show Me The Place" include the words "The troubles." Probably
found words by Leonard Cohen from the words used to refer to the historical Northern
Ireland conflict. Whatever the origin, they work well in the song.
gibjoe
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Not impossible but looking at LC's body of work

Postby gibjoe » Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:58 am

if he has a specific political problem in mind it's far likelier he had the Middle East in mind.
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Re: "The troubles"

Postby TipperaryAnn » Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:49 pm

His own troubles, surely, of which he had many. Almost everything LC has written is about himself - it's one of his endearingly honest characteristics!

Like Yeats ostensibly writing poems about Irish mythology, yet commenting later :
"But what cared I , who set him on to ride,
I, starved for the bosom of his faery bride?"

In other words, he was only using characters like Oisin and Niamh to write about his own love for Maud Gonne.
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Re: "The troubles"

Postby Steven » Thu Mar 22, 2012 6:51 pm

Hi,

I don't think he had any political problem in mind with the lyrics of this song. There's an honesty, yes, though
not necessarily in an autobiographical way... an honesty in carrying forth the intent of the song. Like Yeats,
in your example, TipperaryAnn, I'm sure that the material in this song is derivative of real-life experience.
Don't know if it is memoir-like. First-person construction adds to the temptation to consider that it is.
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Re: "The troubles"

Postby Bushwoman » Thu Jun 12, 2014 7:33 am

Whatever might be the basis, I have found, as always, that this lyric is
quite universal to 'everyman.' Leonard is so appealing to me
in that I wonder how he got in to MY head, and I am sure that
I am not alone there.

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