Bob Dylan Awarded Nobel Prize for Literature 2016

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Re: This is why Dylan will be awarded the Nobel Literature Prize

Postby Squidgy » Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:14 pm

Hartmut wrote:This is why Bob Dylan will be awarded the Nobel Literature Prize:

Wiggle wiggle like a bowl of soup / Wiggle wiggle like a rolling hoop

All the tired horses in the sun / How’m I supposed to get any ridin’ done? Hmm.

„Depart from me this moment,“ I told her with my voice.

And when I was through / I filled up my shoe / And brought it to you

Buckets of Rain, buckets of tears, got all them buckets coming out of my ears.

And I answer to her most mysteriously: Are birds free from the chains of the skyway?
Don't forget:
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Puttin' her in a wheelbarrow / and wheelin' her down th' street...
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Re: This is why Dylan will be awarded the Nobel Literature Prize

Postby Hartmut » Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:18 pm

Squidgy wrote:Don't forget:
Feel like fallin' in love / with every woman I meet
Puttin' her in a wheelbarrow / and wheelin' her down th' street...
Yes, that's hard to forget. - I tried, I failed
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Re: This is why Dylan will be awarded the Nobel Literature Prize

Postby cohenadmirer » Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:57 am

Hartmut wrote:
Squidgy wrote:Don't forget:
Feel like fallin' in love / with every woman I meet
Puttin' her in a wheelbarrow / and wheelin' her down th' street...
Yes, that's hard to forget. - I tried, I failed
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Re: Bob Dylan Awarded Nobel Prize for Literature 2016

Postby douglas07 » Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:24 am

- - well, Mr Dylan is by now prabably the highest " decorated" songwriter. Several doctoral degrees, Pulitzer Price, Oscar, Grammys, the Polar Music Award and so on.
No One NEEDS prices like this .
- lets be happy that for once the Swedes gave a big point to the artform so many of us love. 8)
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Re: Bob Dylan Awarded Nobel Prize for Literature 2016

Postby panjandrum » Fri Oct 14, 2016 3:52 am

While I (like many here I expect) feel quite strongly that Leonard's lyrics are much richer, much more poetic, much "deeper" (for lack of a more concise term) and fit much more classically into the realm of literature (with added considerations being his Novels and considerable body of Poetry), I would have placed Dylan fairly high up my list of candidates. Even though it isn't Leonard, I think it's great to see this award going to a songwriter.

Unfortunately, I'm one of those who just absolutely can't stand Dylan's voice. No matter how many times I go back and try to get use to it (and as a lover of literary music I've tried over and over and over again), I just can't. There are some songs where I don't mind it (Lay lady lay), but all to often it's pure nails on a chalkboard to me. So I have always had to enjoy his lyrics at least "once removed" as it were; either performed by other artists or simply as written word.
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Re: Bob Dylan Awarded Nobel Prize for Literature 2016

Postby John K. » Fri Oct 14, 2016 5:10 am

My letter today to the NY Times, I know the odds of publishing are astronomical but one never knows:

Dear Sir or Madam,

It was with mixed feelings that I read the article "Why Bob Dylan Shouldn't Have Gotten a Nobel" by Anna North in your October 13, 2016 edition. My initial reaction was satisfaction, as I have held that while Mr. Dylan was a groundbreaker, were it not for what in retrospect was a short period at the beginning of his career he was somewhat overrated.

My emotion then changed to disappointment in Ms. North as her reasoning did not match my own. Rather, she displayed the same kind of narrow-mindedness that had been shown towards changes in art, dance, and theater in decades past. Ms. North wanted the Literature Prize to go to a “writer”; I consider the writing of a song to be writing, why else do we call it “songwriting”?

As an aside, I have long felt that Leonard Cohen is the greatest songwriter in the history of English popular music. I don’t expect either the Nobel Committee or Ms. North to agree.

John Kloberdanz
Buffalo, New York

Here's a link for all y'awl:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/13/opini ... egion&_r=1
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Re: Bob Dylan Awarded Nobel Prize for Literature 2016

Postby Squidgy » Fri Oct 14, 2016 5:50 am

Well the award is not without controversy, and it's set the internet abuzz, fer sherr. There are a lot of wisecracks along the lines of, 'Yeah, reading books is too hard, so let's just give the prize to a rock star.' And 'Maybe we should put Salman Rushdie in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.' 8)
Rushdie tweeted congrats to Dylan, saying the decision was the right one.

In an interesting coincidence, the novel generally regarded as THE greatest ever written, Don Quixote by Miguel de Cervantes, has received no Nobel, probably because it predates Alfred Nobel's prize by about 3 centuries. But soon it will be a Disney Movie. So take that, literary purists!

Anyone who hasn't yet read this week's long New Yorker piece by David Remnick about Leonard, DO read it! It's great!
There's a long portion where Remnick talks with Dylan about Cohen! And Dylan analyzes the music and poetry, and goes on at length about his admiration and respect for Cohen...I'd known that Bob and Leonard had crossed paths briefly, but I never knew they hung out at each other's houses or drove up the coast together...well, it's a mighty good read, especially in light of today's news.

In closing, I haven't seen any direct comment or reaction from Dylan himself. Has anyone else? If so, linky please and thanks.
And what about Leonard? Has he offered any public comment?
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Re: Bob Dylan Awarded Nobel Prize for Literature 2016

Postby MarieM » Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:57 am

Leonard Cohen about Dylan's Nobel Prize:
"It's like pinning a medal on Mount Everest for being the highest mountain"
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(This was a comment made by Leonard at his new album launch event in LA on October 13)
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Re: Bob Dylan Awarded Nobel Prize for Literature 2016

Postby Roy » Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:47 pm

I can't stand Bob Dylan! The most overrated act ever! I hate him and his music. He's so annoying! Everything about him annoys me!

Bob Dylan, Plagiarist?
Was Dylan's Rise to Songwriting Fame Ethical?
http://folkmusic.about.com/od/bobdylan/ ... iarism.htm

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Re: Bob Dylan Awarded Nobel Prize for Literature 2016

Postby Squidgy » Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:22 am

MarieM wrote:Leonard Cohen about Dylan's Nobel Prize:
"It's like pinning a medal on Mount Everest for being the highest mountain"
Tweeted by Andreas Renner ‏@renner33 with photo

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(This was a comment made by Leonard at his new album launch event in LA on October 13)
Thank you, Marie!
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Re: Bob Dylan Awarded Nobel Prize for Literature 2016

Postby Hartmut » Sat Oct 15, 2016 8:39 pm

Leaked: Bob Dylan's Nobel Prize acceptance speech

„I haven't got any guitar; I can talk though. I want to thank you for the Nobel Prize award. And I only wish that all you people who are sitting out here tonight weren't here and I could see all kinds of faces with hair on their head. I look down to see the people that are judging me – and they haven't got any hair on their head – I get very uptight about it.

I'm glad for my songs to be honored like this. But you know, they didn't get here by themselves. It's been a long road and it's taken a lot of doing. These songs of mine, I think of as mystery plays, the kind that Shakespeare saw when he was growing up. I think you could trace what I do back that far. They were on the fringes then, and I think they're on the fringes now. And they sound like they've been traveling on hard ground.

I just thought I was doing something natural, but right from the start, my songs were divisive for some reason. I never knew why. Some people got angered, others loved them. A strange environment to have to throw your songs into, but I did it anyway.

I want to accept this award. But in which kind of company does that put me? In those of people like Hemingway and Steinbeck? I don't know if I belong in this category. – I am grateful and proud, that's all.“

Sources:
http://www.corliss-lamont.org/dylan.htm
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/ ... h-20150209
http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/print/d-20074578.html
http://www.vulture.com/2016/10/bob-dyla ... nobel.html
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Re: Bob Dylan Awarded Nobel Prize for Literature 2016

Postby Goldin » Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:19 pm

A nice moment of the last night's Steven Colbert show - on Bob Dylan:

https://youtu.be/zqlIf9avl2c?t=2m34s
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Re: Bob Dylan Awarded Nobel Prize for Literature 2016

Postby Hartmut » Wed Oct 19, 2016 2:29 pm

Thanks, Roman! Quite funny.
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Re: Bob Dylan Awarded Nobel Prize for Literature 2016

Postby Kush » Thu Oct 20, 2016 6:42 am

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Re: Bob Dylan Awarded Nobel Prize for Literature 2016

Postby B4real » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:10 am

I recently received this LC email alert and Bob's name was mentioned in it :razz:

http://www.intelligencer.ca/2016/10/19/ ... troubadour
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