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Re: New poem "Steer Your Way"

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 6:44 pm
by rizing82
Bennyboy wrote:The ancient stones and blunted mountain are surely about the old genitals still having a little life in them yet, despite earlier statements to the contrary.
Injured stones and blunted mountain(s)...

Makes sense only if Cohen was a diphalic sadomasochist.

:shock: :shock:

Re: New poem "Steer Your Way"

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 6:48 pm
by Bennyboy
rizing82 wrote:
Bennyboy wrote:The ancient stones and blunted mountain are surely about the old genitals still having a little life in them yet, despite earlier statements to the contrary.
Injured stones and blunted mountain(s)...

Makes sense only if Cohen was a diphalic sadomasochist.

:shock: :shock:
Its 'ancient' not 'injured'.

Re: New poem "Steer Your Way"

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:19 pm
by rizing82
Bennyboy wrote:
rizing82 wrote:
Bennyboy wrote:The ancient stones and blunted mountain are surely about the old genitals still having a little life in them yet, despite earlier statements to the contrary.
Injured stones and blunted mountain(s)...

Makes sense only if Cohen was a diphalic sadomasochist.

:shock: :shock:
Its 'ancient' not 'injured'.
I give the doubt of how does it sound in the song.
To me it sounded "injured" even before I've read the lyrics.

In the link to lyrics on the top of the topic also writes "injured".

Google is 154:172 for
leonard cohen steer your way lyrics "ancient stones"
leonard cohen steer your way lyrics "injured stones"

So I'll stick with injured :)

Nevertheless, even if it was "ancient", it would still make him diphalic as google agrees that it is definitely "blunted mountains" not "blunted mountain"

Re: New poem "Steer Your Way"

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:54 pm
by Jacob Chacko
An approach to the verse 'As He died to make men holy, Let us die to make things cheap' must take into consideration the strong Christian and Jewish themes in the album.
As He died to make us holy obviously refers to the sanctifying sacrifice of Christ on the cross.
The words let us to make things cheap is a bit more difficult. It is a variation of ' let us die to make men free' from the battle hymn of the republic. However it may refer to this verse from Paul's letter to the Philippians.


But whatever were gains to me I now consider loss for the sake of Christ. 8What is more, I consider everything a loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I have lost all things. I consider them garbage, that I may gain Christ.

Thus it may be a reflection of what a life well lived looks like.
Considering that the thoughts of death seem to haunt this last album from the great poet well versed in Christian and Jewish scripture it may not be a stretch to think that relationships more than possessions may seem infinitely more valuable to cohen.

Re: New poem "Steer Your Way"

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 6:43 am
by Einat
I'm feeling like Sherlock Holmes lately , trying to steer my way very very carefully around 'You want it darker' which is so very beautiful , a real masterpiece IMHO , but not very easy to understand. I will keep my interpretations to myself - I can't compete with how articulate some writers here are, anyway :) But I do have 2 questions about the lyrics- (perhaps it was asked before, but I didnt see) : in the line about the stones- is it 'injured' or 'ancient' ? and also- in the line 'who knows he will be shot' is LC singing 'he' or 'she'?

Re: New poem "Steer Your Way"

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:56 pm
by holydove
Einat wrote: But I do have 2 questions about the lyrics- (perhaps it was asked before, but I didnt see) : in the line about the stones- is it 'injured' or 'ancient' ? and also- in the line 'who knows he will be shot' is LC singing 'he' or 'she'?
Hi Einat,

About the stones: It's written as "injured" (in the New Yorker & the CD booklet), but on the album, Leonard sings "ancient"; so I guess it's both.

And it sounds like "he will be shot".

Re: New poem "Steer Your Way"

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:24 pm
by Einat
Thanks holydove ! Sounds cryptic and a bit spooky, either way ,to be honest, but still a great song.

Re: New poem "Steer Your Way"

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:40 pm
by sobornost
rizing82 wrote:
Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:49 pm

Steer your way, O my heart, though I have no right to ask
To the one who was never, never equal to the task
Who knows he's been convicted, who knows he will be shot

- This one I'm pretty clueless about. Some notion of Leonard not feeling worth for asking God/Jesus for help. But it is pretty loose impression.
Anyone willing to take on this part of song in discussion, I'm happy to talk about.
Hi rizing82,
although your post was long ago, I will try to reconsider this part:
I have the impression, that LC speaks this poem to his own heart (and sharing this in a very compassionate way with his reader, who is living a similar experience). He understands the heart, as being unequal to the incredibly huge task of life. The relationships (past the women), the experience of pain (being sometimes the realest aspect in the experience), the research of truth and goodness...
And the heart has to deal with all these challenges. "Steer your way" sounds to me like:
"I profoundly understand your difficulty, heart, but stay awake, do not give up hope, keep on seeking, keep on being present etc."
Actually the verse, you say you are clueless about, seems so beautiful and deep to me!
Leo