CONCERT REPORT: Fredericton, NB (May 11)

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Re: Fredericton May 11 Set List

Postby amcgee » Tue May 13, 2008 12:27 pm

Hi

i suppose i probably generalised my opinion of Leonard Cohen to all his fans, so sorry about that, in my opinion , his first few albums are his best, All his songs up to The Future are classsic albums. I feal his ablums after the furture have only a few classic songs,

Also i would be interested to know, does he play the guitar any more??

i have never seen him live before , i have listened to his live albums 100's of times , especially "Cohen Live" which is a great album which i listened to this morning coming to work,

i am looking forward to seeing him twice in Dublin . my wife is not a big fan, but does like some of his songs, especailly "Dance me to the end of Love" which we played at our wedding, i brought her to the I am your Fan concert in Dublin 2 years ago, and she was 6 months pregnant at the time and the concert went on for 4 hours, she was nearly in tears by the end of it, but there was no way i was leaving early as, i thought i would never experiance the real thing, so i guess now i will.

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Re: Opening Night - Fredericton

Postby Pope » Tue May 13, 2008 12:50 pm

I've checked the download sites, no recordings of the concert. Quite suprised.
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Re: Opening Night - Fredericton

Postby peter danielsen » Tue May 13, 2008 12:50 pm

Leonards voice sound wonderfully strong. I heard him in the 1993 and his voice is in much better shape now.
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Re: Fredericton May 11 Set List

Postby DBCohen » Tue May 13, 2008 1:27 pm

Tom,

I’d go along with you, and as Joe also said, a few more numbers from Ten New Songs, and at least something from Dear Heather, would have been welcome. The Future has always been my least favorite album of his, although it is very popular with younger fans. A few less from I’m Your Man (great as it is) in favor of a few more from Recent Songs, as you say, would also be in place. Still, if he does sing some songs from the first albums too, a few other old classics should have been included. Why did he drop “Famous Blue Raincoat”, in your opinion?

And how about new material? In the past he did try some new material in concerts, didn’t he?
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Re: Fredericton May 11 Set List

Postby tomsakic » Tue May 13, 2008 1:57 pm

I think that one article announced that they will try new stuff, from the upcoming album. Btw, it seems that Leonard will record with the band - there's a rumour that he has scheduled terms in REAL studio for couple of months after the Summer tour (what means that Fall tour is not happening immediatelly aftre the August break...)

Famous Blue Raincoat was omitted in 1988/1993, I believe, as Leonard showed a great detachment from that song.
Interview January 1993 (Magazine "Details for men")
That was written on Clinton Street. I never felt I really sealed that song; I never felt the carpentry was finished. That song and "Bird on the Wire" were two songs I never successfully finished, but they were good enough to be used. Also, with the poverty of songs I have for each record, I can't afford to discard one as good as that. It's one of the better tunes I've written, but lyrically it's too mysterious, too unclear.

Interview 1993 (Magazine "Songtalk")
That was one I thought was never finished. And I thought that Jennifer Warnes' version in a sense was better because I worked on a different version for her, and I thought it was somewhat more coherent. But I always thought that that was a song you could see the carpentry in a bit. Although there are some images in it that I am very pleased with. And the tune is real good. But I'm willing to defend it, saying it was impressionistic. It's stylistically coherent. And I can defend it if I have to. But secretly I always felt that there was a certain incoherence that prevented it from being a great song.

BBC Radio 1 1994
The trouble with that song is that I've forgotten the actual triangle. Whether it was my own...of course.I always felt that there was an invisible male seducing the woman I was with, now whether this one was incarnate or merely imaginary I don't remember, I've always had the sense that either I've been that figure in relation to another couple or there'd been a figure like that in relation to my marriage. I don't quite remember but I did have this feeling that there was always a third party, sometimes me, sometimes another man, sometimes another woman. It was a song I've never been satisfied with. It's not that I've resisted an impressionistic approach to songwriting, but I've never felt that this one, that I really nailed the lyric. I'm ready to concede something to the mystery, but secretly I've always felt that there was something about the song that was unclear. So I've been very happy with some of the imagery, but a lot of the imagery... The tune I think is good, I remember my mother approving of it, I remember playing the tune for her, in her kitchen, and her perking up her ears while she was doing something else and saying "that's a nice tune".

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Anyhow, he knows that it's most demanded song, and anyhow, the absence of violin seems to be problematic. But he did get votes for that songs as Numero Uno must-have from Jarkko, in the name of fans, I can assure you :)) I firmly believe it will be back until the "real" start, with media coverage and TV broadcasts, in montreal in first days of June.

I'd really like to hear Famous Blue Raincoat, and some songs from Dear Heather, Ten New Songs, and Various Positions (Coming Back To You, Night Comes On). Anthem is great song, and I can't live without it, but I can go easily without The Future, and Closing Time, and Heart With No Companion, and Manhattan... While I'm waiting for Alexandra Leaving, A Thousadn Kisses Deep (hey! where's that song!??), Waiting for the Miracle to Come, The Guests, One of Us Cannot Be Wrong. I hoped that LC will show some change and courage and finally try to say his final word on songs like Death of a Ladies' Man, or to perform a COMPLETE HALLELLUJAH.

Btw, I was 12 when The Future was released, so the question is what's "younger fans" for you :) Those thousands who grew up on Johny Cash American CDs and More Best Of and Ten New Songs, which will fill all Canadian and European shows? :)
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Re: Fredericton May 11 Set List - hallellujah?

Postby tomsakic » Tue May 13, 2008 2:00 pm

I only now get this idea: Steve, Hallellujah is on the setlist - was it 1993 version (new lyrics from Cohen Live), or *maybe* full version, some kind of new combination between all the verses? ...
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Re: Fredericton May 11 Set List

Postby Gregor » Tue May 13, 2008 2:33 pm

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You are the man what a report felt like if I closed my eyes and lisentened to you reading that report i was there .
Thanks a Mllion long may you be able to do that again and again for tthe man with the Golden voice and 27 angels from the great above
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Re: Fredericton May 11 Set List

Postby DBCohen » Tue May 13, 2008 2:35 pm

Tom Sakic wrote: I'd really like to hear Famous Blue Raincoat, and some songs from Dear Heather, Ten New Songs, and Various Positions (Coming Back To You, Night Comes On). Anthem is great song, and I can't live without it, but I can go easily without The Future, and Closing Time, and Heart With No Companion, and Manhattan... While I'm waiting for Alexandra Leaving, A Thousadn Kisses Deep (hey! where's that song!??), Waiting for the Miracle to Come, The Guests, One of Us Cannot Be Wrong. I hoped that LC will show some change and courage and finally try to say his final word on songs like Death of a Ladies' Man, or to perform a COMPLETE HALLELLUJAH.

Btw, I was 12 when The Future was released, so the question is what's "younger fans" for you :) Those thousands who grew up on Johny Cash American CDs and More Best Of and Ten New Songs, which will fill all Canadian and European shows? :)
Tom,

You are extremely young, but old in wisdom 8) . Thanks for the info, one can always depend on you to supply the goods. Somehow I missed those quotes and didn’t know he was so ambivalent about that great song.

If we’re picking favorites from the more recent albums, mine would be “Here It Is”, but I don’t expect it to be performed in concert. And you’re right: where is “A Thousand Kisses Deep”? We disagree over “Manhattan” though – I'll always go for that one.

Well, we are becoming too particular and private in a public place. Looking forward to sitting (standing, jumping…) next to you in concert. Let it be (oops, that’s from someplace else).
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Re: Opening Night - Fredericton

Postby tomsakic » Tue May 13, 2008 2:36 pm

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Postby tomsakic » Tue May 13, 2008 2:47 pm

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ ... 3.wcohen13
He was Fredericton's man
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From Tuesday's Globe and Mail

May 13, 2008 at 4:05 AM EDT

LEONARD COHEN

At the Playhouse

in Fredericton on Sunday

Leonard Cohen may have 48 dates in 14 countries over the next several months, including Switzerland's prestigious Montreux Jazz Festival and Britain's Big Chill fest, but first he took Fredericton in an accomplished performance Sunday night.

The 73-year-old veteran singer/songwriter began by confessing his nervousness - "this is the first time in 14 years I have stood before you in this position as a performer" - but he needn't have. As soon as he stepped onstage for the first show of his first tour since the early 1990s, he was welcomed with a standing ovation from the sold-out house. While quipping that at shows in the 1990s, "I was just a kid of 60 with crazy dreams," he also took time to express concern for the flooded homes and fields of the Saint John River Valley. (Only 10 days earlier, The Playhouse itself was dark, its operations menaced by the overflowing floodwaters of the Saint John River.)

This Atlantic Canada mini-tour, which takes him to Halifax, Charlottetown, Glace Bay, Moncton and St. John's, is a warm-up for the main touring event, in which Cohen will move westward across Canada and into international dates starting in June.

The Playhouse, a venue of little more than 700 seats, was a good place to be starting over and proved well suited to the intimate qualities of his music. It also gave Cohen a chance to note how pleased he was to open his tour in a city known for its poets. "I used to read the Fiddlehead poetry magazine a lot," he said, mentioning local poets Bliss Carman and Fred Cogswell.Onstage more than 2½ hours, Cohen certainly looked his age, a little stooped but dapper in a double-breasted suit and a fedora, which he removed to take a bow after each song. Cradling a hand-held microphone, he was able to move energetically around centre stage to interact with his band. He played two sets of eight songs each and four encores, including 1960s standards such as Suzanne, Bird on the Wire and So Long, Marianne as well as classics from his middle period in the 1980s and early 1990s such as Everybody Knows, Take This Waltz, Hallelujah and I'm Your Man.

There were no new songs in the lineup and only two songs, In My Secret Life and Boogie Street, were drawn from a more recent 2001 album. With its martial rhythm and biting harmonica, however, the 1992 song Democracy definitely sounded a contemporary note.

Cohen took up a guitar toward the end of the first set and again for two songs later. At the start of the second set, he also toyed with an electric keyboard, even taking out his glasses to examine the buttons when starting his Tower of Song.

He was relaxed enough by then to share a laugh with the audience over the ironic line in that song about his "golden voice."

In fact, he was in excellent voice, his sure delivery given musical depth by a virtuoso group under the direction of veteran bass player Roscoe Beck and including Bob Metzger (electric guitar), Neil Larsen (keyboards), Rafael Gayol (drums), Dino Soldo (electric woodwind, harmonica and saxophone) and Javier Mas (acoustic guitar, oud and other strings).

Strong vocal support was provided by the Webb Sisters (Charley and Hattie Webb, a young British-based duo) and Sharon Robinson, a long-time collaborator and co-writer of several songs, who sang several solos and duets. There had been pre-show buzz that another musical collaborator, Cohen's romantic partner, Anjani Thomas, would perform, but she did not appear.

Cohen knows his songs well and so did the audience, many of them old enough to recall that first album in December, 1967, that made his reputation in popular culture. Already one of Canada's young literary lions, the poet and novelist seized the time to marry his muse to popular music, whose boundaries were expanding under the influence of slightly younger contemporaries such as Bob Dylan.

In mid-March, Cohen's influence was celebrated yet again, when he was inducted into New York's Rock and Roll Hall of Fame - although most record stores still file him under Folk.

On the road again, Cohen is once more among his own folk, less melancholy than his reputation and as passionate and articulate as ever. After all, public performance is a literary tradition at least as old as Homer, and although Cohen's hair may be grey, closing time still seems a long way away.

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Re: Fredericton May 11 Set List

Postby swisschris » Tue May 13, 2008 2:50 pm

I would also like to hear some more recent songs, like HERE IT IS and BY THE RIVERS DARK and it would be nice to have at least one song from Dear Heather, I think GO NO MORE A-ROVING would be fantastic live. I also thought that he might do an unreleased song, what about BOOK OF LONGING? I really liked the demo he presented some time ago during a radio programme.
But, of course, he has so many great songs to choose, he will never be able to please everyone. (There are also some older songs I miss, like Sisters of Mercy, Chelsea Hotel....)So I am just happy to be (hopefully) able to see him perform live for the first time and he can sing anything and I will be pleased:-)

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Re: Fredericton May 11 Set List

Postby blonde madonna » Tue May 13, 2008 2:54 pm

Tom Sakic wrote:I hoped that LC will show some change and courage and finally try to say his final word on songs like Death of a Ladies' Man.
Amen to that Tom. But I think this thread shows that he just can't please everyone.

'The Future' introduced a younger audience to his songs because a few appeared on the soundtrack to 'Natural Born Killers' (and hopefully not too many 12 year olds got to see that movie :? ).

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Re: Fredericton May 11 Set List

Postby upsofloating » Tue May 13, 2008 4:41 pm

Well, the thing with a guy like cohen is that you take whatever he gives and smile the whole way through. I would have loved to hear "Famous blue Raincoat", "Alexandra Leaving", "Sisters of Mercy" or "By the Rivers Dark" (on of my favorite albums), but I also realize that his olders songs do seem to lose something when they are no longer stripped down to just he, his guitar, and backup vocals, and also realize that I was four years old the last time he toured and he has to play his "hits" to keep the general public interested.
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Re: Fredericton May 11 Set List

Postby dick » Tue May 13, 2008 4:48 pm

Have yet to see my first live concert - Toronto 6/6!

Will enjoy any set list that Mr Cohen and band elect to present. I am much older than Tom, but did come first to rabid fandom through Natural Born Killers so Miracle, Future and Anthem are high on my list of wishes.

One thing that hasn't been mentioned, is when were the band members introduced? From the boots I've heard letting them all highlight in a song was very effective. (I Tried to Leave You for example.) Was a different technique used in Fredericton?
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Re: Fredericton May 11 Set List

Postby upsofloating » Tue May 13, 2008 5:02 pm

Band members were introduced sporadically throughout the songs during their various times in the spotlight (solo bringing the band into WHO BY FIRE, for example), and were also introduced at the conclusion of the final set.
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