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Joan Baez Trad.

Postby Kush on Mon May 23, 2011 4:18 am

Was inspired to post these songs after Steven's posting..... from a vinyl album I inherited

Lily of the West
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txmlaZbY-f4

Matty Groves
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVnu6oBUuw8

Mary Hamilton
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh9_jdmcAhY

Bachianas Brasileiras
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfTtUxyjOaE
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Re: Joan Baez Trad.

Postby anneporter on Mon May 23, 2011 1:32 pm

lovely
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Re: Joan Baez Trad.

Postby Steven on Tue May 24, 2011 6:17 am

Hi Kush,

Mostly enjoyed the selections/links. I forgot how good a vibrato she has. Also, forgot how good-looking
she was in her younger days. -- Bob Dylan had good taste. (He'll be 70 tomorrow!) Thanks.
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Re: Joan Baez Trad.

Postby Kush on Wed May 25, 2011 6:57 pm

anneporter & Steven - glad you enjoyed it.
Yes she sure was a restful sight for tired eyes in her youth. I beleive she turned 70 earlier this year.
I saw a thing about Dylan at Borders recently and about his 70 greatest songs (for is 70th birthday presumably). I was flipping through it fairly quick so may have missed something but couldnt believe they did not have 'Dignity' in the collection. If I had to pick just one Dylan song for my life that just might be it, although I'd have to think on it if the hypothetical really turned into reality. Plus there are several versions with scattered verses around.
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Re: Joan Baez Trad.

Postby Steven on Wed May 25, 2011 10:11 pm

Hi Kush,

You may have been flipping through the Rolling Stone issue of May 26, 2011 with its cover story
"The 70 Greatest Dylan Songs." Haven't read the article yet and didn't notice "Dignity" when I
flipped through it.

Here's a link to "Dignity": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ_h5j-PISs.
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Re: Joan Baez Trad.

Postby Kush on Fri May 27, 2011 10:14 pm

Hi Steven,

yeah think it was Rolling Stone magazine.
There are two different versions of Dignity in Telltale Signs album which have additional verses different to each other and the version you have posted. On one of the demo versions we have....

Soul of a nation is under the knife
Death is standing at the doorway of life
In the next room a man is fighting with his wife
Over Dignity.


which recalls line from Democracy

The homicidal bitchin' that goes down in every kitchen
To determine who will serve and who will eat



but my favorite line is probably

Someone showed me a picture and I just laughed
Dignity never been photographed
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Re: Joan Baez Trad.

Postby Kush on Sun May 29, 2011 10:08 pm

Nice version of Its a Hard Rain gonna Fall by JB. It gets really interesting towards the end....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmx8uAxD41w&
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Re: Joan Baez Trad.

Postby Steven on Mon May 30, 2011 9:19 pm

Hi Kush,

As soon as I read the alternate verse of Dylan's that you posted, it also reminded me of the verse you then posted
from "Democracy." The line Dylan wrote about dignity "never been phototgraphed" is quite good.
Dignity can't, of course, be photographed. The line acknowledges, implicitly, that dignity is concurrently intangible and most substantive. The JB new version of "It's A Hard Rain Gonna Fall," does contain that surprise channeling of someone.
(I don't want to give away the surprise, as others can discover it for themselves. Where the channeling takes place,
it is jarring and didn't enhance the song, i.m.o. Got to wonder why she did this. It is an attention getter. Perhaps it was
intended to convey honor. Maybe it was meant for humorous affect. It is odd.) Outside of the surprise, Baez did a spectacular cover of the song.
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Re: Joan Baez Trad.

Postby Kush on Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:48 am

Steven - I agree it was a little jarring because the transition was so abrupt and so completely at odds with what came before. But looks like she was having fun with it so its all good. :)

p.s.
The line acknowledges, implicitly, that dignity is concurrently intangible and most substantive.


nice. I may adopt this when warranted.
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Re: Joan Baez Trad.

Postby Kush on Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:20 pm

Bob Dylan doing a terrific imitation of Joan Baez imitating him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMWLjgPTR_c
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Re: Joan Baez Trad.

Postby Squidgy on Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:41 pm

Don't forget Dylan-penned Farewell, Angelina, the title song of Joanie's 1965 album of the same name. Really beautiful; I have the record and have been meaning to transfer it to CD.

Oh, and I hear Dylan is on the cover of the AARP magazine this month--ha ! (For you Euros, AARP is American Association of Retired Persons.) Sigh...we're all getting a bit long in the tooth.

Speaking of old-fart rockers (I'm too lazy to go to another thread) Keith Richards' autobiography, Life, was a pretty good read. Dude likes to get loaded and fight, apparently, ho ho. He tells what kind of groupies he likes, what kind he doesn't, the truth about that 'got his blood replaced' story, and what he reaallly thinks about Mick Jagger. Mostly, though, he talks about music, and he spends many pages explaining his particular guitar tricks, how he do what he do. Guitar pickers might find the book worthy just for that.
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Re: Joan Baez Trad.

Postby Steven on Sat Jun 04, 2011 12:09 am

Hi Kush,

:D An alternate title for the song could have been "Miasma." The headcovering and beard sported by Dylan
made him look the part for a character in a biblical movie. It's a biting song, outwardly and inwardly so.
When it comes to relationships, idiocy is an equal opportunity employer. A good song.
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Re: Joan Baez Trad.

Postby Steven on Sat Jun 04, 2011 12:18 am

Hi Squidgy,

Keith Richards was on the radio show "Fresh Air" with host Terry Gross. He spoke of the book "Life" during the
interview. It's currently on podcast at: http://www.npr.org/2010/10/25/130722581 ... ck-at-life. Haven't read the book yet.
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Re: Joan Baez Trad.

Postby Kush on Sat Jun 04, 2011 8:25 pm

Steven- Dylan is the undisputed world champion when it comes to writing mean spiteful songs. Nobody captures those emotions better. Although inevitably at the end he points the finger to himself.

Squidgy - Farewell Angelina is a terrific song but I like Angelina even better. http://www.bobdylan.com/songs/angelina
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Butch Hancock & Marce Lacouture

Postby Kush on Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:19 am

They deserve their own thread but I think its appropriate to stick them here. Butch Hancock (of The Flatlanders) and Marce Lacouture were a songwriting -singing duo from the Austin music scene in the 80s who look and sound remarkably like Bob Dylan and Joan Baez in the 60s. But like so many Texas tunesmiths of that time they were pretty laid back and not very well known, especially in the pre-internet days. They released two albums together and only one of them is still available 'Yella Rose' which I think is a masterpiece. I have previously posted some of Butch Hancock's superb writing.
Here they do a cover of a Lucinda Williams song Sharp Cutting Wings.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf3X3XTPRjk

Marce Lacouture today..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz_14MwZt9U&

Butch Hancock today..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c150fjzCeXk&

like JB and BD they dont make music together anymore.
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