Songs that may be forgotten, or many people have never heard

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Diane wrote: Yes, the first song I heard of DeVille's was Mixed Up Shook Up Girl, from dear departed Greg, who was expressing his opinion of Cate and my interpretations of the Book of Mercy:-).
You know we let him off the hook pretty easily that time, but then I think Mat was the main mischief-maker. lover please
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Diane wrote:...tend to prefer rockier versions of the same old blues:...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhrqZP_qVyU
Cate wrote:...lover please ...
The person who had the hit with that Billy Swan composition was a Domino before Derek, singing lead in this hit

(Diane: Before you pick up some of Willie's music - what you write suggests that if you can find it the 1993 live album (not to be confused with the '03 acoustic trio live) or more recent work may be more to your liking even though I am partial to the early stuff ... check out some sound samples on Amazon ...)
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In the Seventies, there were several contenders for the "new Dylan", such as this guy ("Rock Ballad" by Elliot Murphy):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPT5Dmve ... L&index=11

Others were decidedly Dylanesque:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUz4EVAPvIc ("She's a Friend of Mine" by Don Nix)

While some rock/pop stars became more countrified:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0tgAZnhGUs ("Hear the Wind" by Gene Clark)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydNvjQTRSlU: ("Joanne" by Michael Nesmith)

Some country boys decided to surrender to the rhythm:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdB8juhL02w ("Surrender to the Rhythm" by Brinsley Schwarz)

While their founder member joined (the nearest thing the UK had to) a "new Springsteen":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kQXko2W0sU ("Hold Back the Night" by Graham Parker)
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OK Bequia, thanks - I normally prefer live albums too. Just remembered one folk group I have liked since long ago. I love this one for its simplicity. Not something people haven't heard, but it says here the video is rare, will that do. 12th of Never cover by them is a killer, too, imho.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcv3gWBmaUE

(I have only listened to a fraction of the links in this thread so far. So much music, so little time...)
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A late night journey into the mystic...two by male singers, two by female singers (all late Sixties - early seventies);

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KWZDFMI ... L&index=21

("Vallhalla" by Elton John)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IHI7NheZtA ("Katmandu" by Cat Stevens)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTNTSmix09A ("Mythical Kings and Iguanas" by Dory Previn)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMusN39Acx0 *Stargazer" by Shelagh Macdonald)
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John Etherington wrote: ... In the Seventies, there were several contenders for the "new Dylan"...
… and the old Bob Dylan was just as hard to find …

... Brinsley Schwarz - hadn't thought of him and them in a while, thanks ...

Rufus’ dad describes his get-togethers with other new Dylans in this song….

One of those contenders, Mike Nesmith, does this very Dylanesque version of the composition that was his most successful ... clip was from his role in a made-for-TV group with a popular show in the US …

Another of them, Don Nix, started out playing sax in the group that was the foundation of the Memphis (Stax) Soul Sound, heard on this hit … later he would take the bass line from an M.G.’s song and turn it into this successful number for Freddie King and these guys
Diane wrote:…Just remembered one folk group I have liked since long ago. I love this one for its simplicity …
Siblings’ harmonies are like no other … The Fureys also do a great version of one of the most powerful songs around (by Eric Bogle) …
John Etherington wrote: … A late night journey into the mystic...two by male singers, two by female singers (all late Sixties - early seventies) ...
Elton sure was good ...

… here’s a mystical lullabye of sorts by the wife to whom André moved onto from Dory … and, in case memories that one conjures up keep you awake, something meditative by an even later wife …
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Hi Bequia,

There are some synchronous connections here...When I did the country rock thread above, I was actually looking for the whole of Linda Rondstadts's "Differerent Drum" (with the hapsichord) but could only find the one that you use here, which changes in the middle. I was going to use that to link to Brinsley Schwarz's "Country Girl" but then decided to shift theme. I also came across Nesmith's Monkee's send-up of "Different Drum" en route, but didn't use that as I've been trying to stick to versions of songs that I really like! Interesting too, that you bring in "Rosemary's Baby", because I remember seeing that at a cinema in Belsize Park (near Hampstead) in 1970 - a double-bill with my favourite film "If", which included this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIxEPYkXkU8 ("Sanctus" from Missa Luba)

That was time that I saw Cat Stevens in The Country Club across the road from there, where he sang "Katmandu" (included in my mystic thread above).

Otherwise, thanks for the rest (and especial the new Bob Dylan song) which I hadn't heard before. This thread is going to become extremely difficult for anyone to navigate! Perhaps we should edit our posts to reference them? I started doing that at first then decided to go for the "surprise" element like you. Doubt whether I've got the time though, especially now that the winter holidays are drawing to a close!

All good things, John E
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John Etherington wrote:Hi Bequia,

... my favourite film "If", which included this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIxEPYkXkU8

This thread is going to become extremely difficult for anyone to navigate! Perhaps we should edit our posts to reference them? I started doing that at first then decided to go for the "surprise" element like you. Doubt whether I've got the time though, especially now that the winter holidays are drawing to a close!
Hi John,

My rough estimate is that there are almost 200 song links thus far ... so things may indeed be getting difficult to navigate even by electronic rather than just celestial guidance ... so much so that we risk the thread turning into a 2-person discussion - kinda like what goes on way down there in the forum ... to make the journey easier maybe what would work is a format following your original post taking a single forgotten/never heard song and linking it to one other with the aids to navigation included. Subsequent posts could continue based on the most recent prior. With that in mind and starting with the Missa Luba link - that I really appreciate having either forgotten or never known that it came from a film:

In contrast to Missa Luba which put the Latin Mass to African music is what happened when African and Western rhythms met and the music business took over:

The Tokens: The Lion Sleeps Tonight (1961).

The story of the lion's trail from Mbube to the Tokens via Wimoweh and beyond is found here.

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Bequia,

That was one of the first songs I heard when I got into popular music in January 1962. The more popular in the UK was the Karl Denver variation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsDnjM9xVpw ("Wimoweh" by Karl Denver)
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I can see how that version could lead to getting hooked on popular music. Here is where it got started:

Mbube, Solomon Linda & the Evening (1939 recording)
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John Etherington wrote: This thread is going to become extremely difficult for anyone to navigate! Perhaps we should edit our posts to reference them?
That would be great, at least with anything new that you guys post. I haven't heard quite a bit of this before and it would be nice to easily reference song names or artist names.
Diane wrote: Not something people haven't heard, but it says here the video is rare, will that do.
I had never heard before, I'm glad you posted. Such a gentle and lovely song.

Mythical Kings and iguanas – ohhhh so nice

Martha and Rufus’s dad!!! I'm looking forward to seeing Rufus this summer cigarettes and chocolate milk
Buck 65 aka Rich Terfry (CBC host) blood of a young wolf he’s a big Cohen fan btw .

okay well known but a bit forgotten Groucho - Lydia the tattooed lady
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Cate wrote:okay well known but a bit forgotten Groucho - Lydia the tattooed lady
...words and music by the same team that brought us a song that may not be forgotten for quite some time:
Over The Rainbow, Judy Garland, 1939 (Wizard of Oz), 1969 (final concert)

E.Y. "Yip" Harburg and Harold Arlen ... (Harburg's story is quite interesting) ...

PS John - if it was a 45, the copy of Denver's Wimoweh I downloaded today would be worn out - apart from the vocals, the guitar by someone named Kevin Neill (as best I can tell) is great...I had never seen him so went searching and found this ... incredible ...
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1969 (final concert)
I love how her voice breaks at ~2.00 – beautifully sung.

Okay, Judy Garland – Liza Minnelli – Kit Kat club – Cabaret!!!– Alan Cumming -2 girls

ahhh back to work today and I still have so many songs unclicked

smile
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I've been trying to find the time to listen properly to all of these songs, at the moment I'm clicking everything for a quick listen with the intentions of going back and giving them my full attention.There should be more hours in the day!
For some reason Cate's last posting "smile" made me think of these two

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvESShtRUDQ

Hope you enjoy them!
Manchester 19th June/Cardiff 8th Nov
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Liza + comedy team reminded me of a great British duo, one of whom went on to star with Liza in Arthur:

Peter Cook and Dudley Moore (and guest), L.S. Bumble Bee

Cate - With Smile it is always interesting to hear how the singer approaches the song; i.e., where on the line from optimism about the future to being resigned to something but putting on a brave face their version is placed ... the best for me, like the silent movie for which the music was written (lyrics came later), keep a good level of ambiguity ...
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